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I love you Curadh. I love you, Bear. This is episode 86 of the Bear and Curadh podcast. We're
going to talk about controversial opinions. Okay. This should be interesting. You want
to go first and you want me to? You go first. Do you think abortion should be banned?
Maybe I should say yes so, we can talk for more than one sentence. No, tell me how you
really feel. I know you don't believe that. It's a fact that abortion is needed from time
to time. There's a perfect case in Texas right now. Absolutely. A woman whose life is in danger
because she can't get an abortion and had to secretly travel to some other state to get
that done. It sounds like this is a woman who can afford to do that. Yeah. Lots of women
would not. So, if you can't, if you're banned, then those people are stuck. Yeah. I absolutely
disagree with banning abortion, obviously. I really don't think you should come down to
the man. I really don't. But my big thing is, I don't think the government should be able
to tell people what to do and not do it their body, which is one of the tenants of the Republican
party, but they don't seem to think so on this case. We should just recall that rename
that whole party, the hypocrite party. Seriously. So yeah, they preach small government, but
yet they want to be involved, then is that the fault of the Republicans? Because I suspect
that some religious political groups have pretty much taken over the Republican party and
taken away their basic tenants and made their own ideology part of the Republican agenda.
Yeah. Well, they need to stop it. And that's not something that happened overnight. Do you
remember those words, moral majority, like in the East? Native, I was going to say, yeah.
You know, so it wasn't, it was a well-planned thing. Oh, yeah. It wasn't, yeah. It was planned
yeah, it slowly but surely took place. I didn't. Yeah. And the abortion is not a black and white
issue. Yeah. I think everybody recognizes that. And that is why in states where abortion
basically, is put to a vote, people overwhelmingly vote to keep it. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean,
here in Kansas, we were one of the first states that it came up to ago. And people kept
it. And I wonder how, how that came to be? Because people have common sense, I would say,
that's my opinion. And I know that it is going to agree with my opinion. It's been a while
since I've read anything about this, but it seemed to me like opinion polls found that people
are both anti-abortion and pro-abortion at the same time. I think women should have the choice
and the ability to have an abortion, but they also think that it's wrong. Yeah. Well, there's
a lot of people who, I mean, there's people who personally are against it, but they understand
that the government shouldn't have a say in individuals' rights or choices. You know what I mean,
which is fine. I think that's the vast majority of people. That's, and that's the way it should
be. I mean, if you, if my rights shouldn't impede your rights, you know what I mean, just
because-- So if you don't like abortion then don't get one? Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean,
it's forcing these women to go do it, but it should be an option to go out there. And that's
the thing. You know, you might have to, you know, you morally make them believe it's wrong,
and all that, but you've got to, sorry, just got distracted. Like you said, it might not be for you,
but you shouldn't have the right to take that and build that right from someone else. Stop it.
Brandy, be quick. Stop. Should contraception be handed out in secondary schools?
I don't see why not. I don't either, but people have a huge moral
obligate objection to that, but saying they want to ban abortion.
Yes, at the same time. At the same people at the same time. Yeah. Don't want you to have contraception,
then they don't want you to have abortion either. Okay, so like with the teenager, with wild hormones,
not have access to contraception's, because they're just going to know not to do it or do it correctly.
There seems to be this theory that if they have access to contraception, they'll use it,
and they don't want that. They're going to do it anyway. I think so, yeah.
And then, I mean, not even just getting pregnant. I mean, you're talking about sexually transmitted
diseases too. And a lot of those same people don't want any sex education in school.
What's the moral coming to? It seems like they're thinking, you know, if kids know about sex,
that they're going to do it. Well, they're going to do it anyway. Yeah. Whether they know what they're
doing or not. Whether they'll rather be educated about it. Whether you want your kid to be educated
about it. Yeah. But apparently, I mean, there's a bunch of people out there who don't know anything about it.
They don't know how the whole reproductive system works. They don't know. And they won't explain
to their kids because they don't know themselves. No. I can't believe that. I mean, really? People
know where babies come from. You would hope, but I mean, they don't know the signs behind it,
like the, you know, they're coming down the Philippians. You know, they don't know all of that.
Well, I think they just don't want anybody having any fun. Well, yeah. Of course.
There's an amazing number of people who think that sex is just for having babies.
And it should not be fun at all. Most people need to get with the times. Those people have been around
for thousands of years. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone's with 12 kids because they find out that it is fun,
but they're just not willing to put a river on it. That's why they got 12 kids. But you think they
yeah, my aunt and uncle were there that way. And they're having more than just, it's easy to
limit it to 12 times. There's yeah. Well, you're pregnant. Oh, we're going to go out like crazy now.
And a Catholic still say, oh, we do use contraception. We use the rhythm method. We don't have it. Yeah.
Which I call Vatican roulette. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Yeah. So it's it's so it's yeah, I think
contraception should be handed out. I do. You know, but the education needs to be long with it though.
Yeah. Yeah. That sounds reasonable. So. Okay. Do you think the country should ever go to war
except in self-defense? No, I don't. The only reason for killing people is to stop them from killing
you, I think. Yeah. Remember the quote war in Iraq. To that sort of Saddam Hussein had weapons
of mass destruction. And they never found any. No, it was just a convenient excuse for a president to
get revenge for his father for his father's mistakes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I can look up on the war
lasted. And then I mean, have we been, but I mean, look at the Vietnam war. Oh, I'm sorry. That was in a war.
Police action. But look at the stuff we're helping with. I mean, we're funding Israel right now, aren't we?
We're funding any. So, we're pretty much involved in those wars. Yeah. Although if we stop funding them,
I don't think they would stop the war. Either one of those wars. No, don't still continue. I mean,
they need or Israel doesn't need our help. Not really that. I mean, they're a big country. They're
military's nasty. And they have forced conscription. Everyone has to serve everyone male and female.
A lot of times when people talk about justice, I think they actually mean vengeance. Yeah. Because Hamas killed
like 1200 Jewish people. I'm pretty sure they've killed a lot more people, Palestinians than 1200.
They're saying like it's over 20,000 now. Yeah. So, and then, you know, we're not seeing the whole truth.
Probably not. You know, they're saying Hamas is using children and women and children and shields
they're hiding behind them, which I don't doubt it, but I don't know. I'm up there.
You know, you know, no, it's believe in the media anymore. That is a part of the world that has never,
ever known peace. Never, ever. And I don't think as long as humans have existed, they've been fighting.
It's a tribal mentality. What does that mean? A tribal mentality? I'm trying to explain.
Is it an us versus them? Yeah. If you're not us, you're them. And if you're not with us, you're against us.
In Ireland, there was a group called Sinn Féin. And Sinn Féin means something like people like us.
So that was the same kind of mentality. Yeah. Although you don't hear as much about violence in
Ireland as you used to, either Shimane we're just not hearing about it or it's maybe they've settled
some of their differences. I think they said a lot of the differences. I think so. It can't be done.
Yeah. Yeah. But it was going on in Ireland, it was more between the British empire and the Irish people.
But wasn't it also the Protestants and Protestants? Yeah. The Protestants was a separation. It was basically
the Church of England, which was a separation from the Church of Christ that came towards
date because the Pope wanted to allow him, or not a portion, wouldn't allow him the forces. So, he
decided to make his own church. And it came basically down to property rights. The Protestants
for the richer, which was the Church of England, and then the Catholics were the poor. Well, for
you to vote in Ireland, you had to be a property owner. Well, what happened was the Protestants owned
on the property where the Catholics didn't. And you had generations of families living in one house
and they could only get, like say, one vote, whereas then you had the Protestants who had multiple
bed houses for each individual. And more property, they got more votes. So basically, it was a
majority rule. And that was the big crisis. And then now we have separation in Northern Ireland,
Northern Ireland's part of the British, to British. And then you have Ireland's own. But yeah,
that's where the whole IRA comes from. And apartheid is also another situation where it was bad.
There was civil war and strife. But eventually they got through it. Yeah. So, it ought to be possible
for the Medis to come to peace somehow. He was saying, but I mean, even the Jews that are here in
America gets hated on. I mean, yeah, I mean, we'll get to the Holocaust. Perhaps that was the,
probably not the official reason, but the unofficial reason for the Zionist state was to
give them a safe area. Yeah, give them a place to, to, and it doesn't look like it worked out that way.
No, because I mean, it's around a pie, enemies. But what they did during the six-day war though,
you don't want to fuck with them, you know. And we're getting away off topic, but that's fine. That's what we do.
I can't believe that Israel had no idea that Hamas was going to do that to that music festival.
Because Israel has like the most advanced intelligence network in the world. Yeah. How could they not know
something was going to happen? Yeah, and there's already stuff coming up that they didn't know,
but they didn't want to do anything about it. The trees will come out or they'll bury it. It's just
a seriously doubtful tale way to dog, but they, that they just had to have known. It's just like,
you know, there's reports that have been covered up about us known about 9/11. There's a lot of
chatter about 9/11, and they were told to keep their eyes and ears open, but they don't want to pass
the time to the food chain and then 9/11 happened. And I guess I could see if there were rumors that
something was going to happen at the World Trade Center that they would say, "No, that's already
happened." Yeah. What's the bombings in it? Yeah. The world. I don't know. I think you can't have
good without evil, but I don't know. It seems like evil already has all the steps planned out before
good even gets to the door. Yeah. Yeah. Some of the plants couldn't be a good point. Yeah, we could
go on for hours about that. All right. Should we have the death penalty? I don't believe we should,
personally, I don't believe, because people are wrongly convicted of crimes, crimes, all the time.
And that's what our call criminal justice system is based on. We would rather let 10 guilty
people go and have one innocent person put in peace on guilty. So, I don't think we should,
but I'm mixed. I like if someone raped and killed my niece, I'd be her press to see them sitting
in prison for the rest of their life, but if you kill them, I'm going to bring my niece back.
Once again, we're talking about the difference between justice and vengeance. Exactly.
So yeah, I guess the death penalty and the way they have it set up, it doesn't work. It doesn't.
What do you mean? It's supposed to be, I'm trying to get rid of lots of words. Basically,
make people not want to commit crimes. A deterrent? A deterrent. People don't think about it.
They still go on commit the crimes. And when they're in the middle of the crime, they don't say,
they're going, oh, wait a minute, I'm doing this. I could get the death penalty.
Well, people don't think most of the time. Yeah. But so yeah, I mean, I don't know. And then
who's the saying, who lives and who dies? What do you mean by that? Well, you're going to have to leave
it up to a judge or a jury or peers. And then I mean, every state's so different on the death penalty, too.
But I'm just thinking out loud pretty much. Never gonna be like I'm crazy. Oh, well, I'm just trying to
think it can't be a black and white issue, but it seems like we're making it a black and white issue here.
No, it's a completely crazy issue. I mean, like you said, if you ever commit a murder,
you should get the death penalty. You won't, what happens if someone breaks in your house and
someone breaks in and they're doing something terrible to you. And we don't carry firearms in
our house or anything like that. But I catch the guy in the act and I kill him. Should I be put
to death for that? Not if you felt that you were in danger of being killed yourself. Yeah.
So, you know what I mean? But I murdered someone. They don't call that murder. It's self-defense. Yeah.
So, I mean, it's a completely crazy issue. I'm sure people have gained the
system to get off of a murder charge. Oh, yeah. All you have to do is watch a date mine on Friday nights.
So. But as you said, it's probably better to let 10 people go into wrongly punish someone who
was innocent. And we still do it. It still happens all the time. You still hear about cases where people were,
I don't know about people who were executed, but there's plenty of cases where people were in jail for.
There's a decade. There's a story in this week on the news or two, two relatives, as if it's a
guy in his cousin just got out of serving 40 years in Illinois for killing somebody 40 years ago.
They were 20 when they went in. They were 60 now. And they were innocent. They could have claimed
their innocence all the time. And they were innocent. They finally got out. So, yeah. So,
if somebody was executed for that and it turned out they were exonerated, you can't bring them back.
Yeah, that's very true. And where's their vengeance? Yeah, 'cause I'd be pissed. Well, can you imagine being
locked away for 40 years? Oh, everything that's been changed in the, they passed 20 years. How things
are completely different. That's almost two generations. Yeah. And, you know, cell phones, computers,
to World Wide Web. I mean, it goes on and on and on and on. It would be hard to function as a useful
member of society. You've been out of society for that long. I mean, how could you imagine trying
to go find a job? You know what I mean? It's, have a smartphone. There's no puns on or anything
like that. That would just throw you off completely if you weren't used to, to use it. You know what I mean?
I mean, you can learn it pretty quick, but still. And if you were executed, you wouldn't be doing any of those
things. So, is money running sports? Into this is kind of, yes and no. My answer to this is basically,
everyone pitches that athletes are making too much money. The reason they're making so much
money is because people and fans are willing to pay the prices, to go to the games, pay the parking fees,
buy the jerseys, pay for the direct TV packages. As long as everyone's willing to do that,
these people are going to make a lot of money. And it's not even half of these that are making
the most money. It's the owners. It's their billionaires, little billionaires. I mean, when, I think,
Mark Cuban bought the Dallas Mavericks back in like 90s something and it was 12, I don't know,
I'm just basically millions of dollars. Well, now if he turned around and sold that
organization, it would be worth like $9 billion. So, it is an investment. It's not a vanity purchase.
Oh, a lot of it's a vanity purchase. A lot of these guys, but it is, and it still is an investment.
But if, you know, if you're not like, I know friends of mine are going to the G's came tomorrow,
they go to the game because for four tickets, it's $800. But people are willing to spend the money.
So that money's got to go somewhere. So, the athletes get paid. I mean, show him, show him a tiny,
just sign a $700 million contract over 10 years to play baseball. $700 million.
Okay. Anybody says nobody is worth that? No. Not even a doctor who saves people every day.
As much as I'm out of money. Yeah. Yeah. It's ridiculous. So, but it is what it is. It's not going to go anywhere.
It's all there to make money. What do you think? I think it is an industry. Yeah.
It's not, it's not just entertainment. You know, it's not a group of men in their backyard
playing. Playing him transport. It is an industry that is designed to make money.
And they make a lot of it. Because people are willing to spend the money to go watch it.
And cities are willing to fork out money to give them stadiums and parking and
obviously, they believe that it's worth it. Yeah. I mean, it brings in a lot of money. I mean,
those cities get crowded during, I mean, like whenever I would go up and watch the Red Sucks play the
Royals, you should see how many Boston Red Sucks stands are up there. They come from all over the
place. You know, they said that and those, those were considered premium tickets to the Royals. So
the Royals would charge more money whenever the St. Louis Cardinals came to town. So the
New York Yankees and the Boston Red Sucks would come to town because they knew their fans traveled.
And there's a group of us. The one time we left, there's like a group of eight of us that went
up there. The minute hotel, standing nice hotel, just basically went up there for a weekend and
we all dropped a lot of money because we're all going out to eat dinner and drinking. So, it brings
money into the town because a lot of people will make a weekend out of it and just not go to the game
and go, huh? Because it's, you know, especially I mean, Kansas City's far enough way where you can
actually, get there and come back, but we would go for a few games. You know, like I said, we go for a
Friday night game and a Saturday night game. So, we make a whole weekend out of it. But it brings a lot
of money into the city. If you think about it, there are other entertainment industries that are
very similar. People spend hundreds of dollars for concert tickets and get, get on a plane,
get a hotel, have a nice dinner, all those things. Friends of mine, they've been found Dave Matthewspan
saying Dave's travel all over the US this past summer. I think they went to like 15 of his concerts.
The last one they went to; they flew to Madison Square Garden to see them there and they would go
for a weekend at a time. They'd go to two shows. They'd go to the DVD Thursday morning, go to the Friday
night show, go to the Saturday night show and then fly back Sunday. Look and afford to do that. Not me,
not us. But I don't, and you know, people, I completely can't content watching football. I'm a
huge football fan. You know that. I'd rather watch it and hunt. I'm in a climate-controlled area.
I don't know if he'd drunk people yelling and being pushing me around. I have the best scene in the
house. I can get him good at that from what I want to climate-controlled her commercial breaks. It's heated.
And I was sitting out in the cold. Nobody's having a big conversation about something unrelated
in running your experience. Exactly. And I can watch the game. I got a better view than I would
if anywhere in the stadium. I don't have to spend money on beer or food or anything like that.
I can just get up and go make my own sandwich if I want to. I don't drink anymore. But even then,
I'm not going to spend $12 on a beer. I don't have to drive three and a half hours to go there and
three and a half hours to come back. And then spend the money on the tickets. I mean, it's fun. I've
done it in the past, but I'm to the point age-wise and I'm completely content just watching it at home.
And I mean, I don't even go to the bar because I get annoyed because I don't want to watch the game.
I want to pay attention to the game. I don't need someone drunk. I happen to my year
about some girly matter, just random crap. Shut up, watch the game. That's what I'm there for.
And I cheer for my team. Well, even proudly. But I want to watch the game. That's what I'm there for.
So, I won't even go to the bar. I mean, you don't even talk to me during the games. So, I won't even let
the cats around me when the games are playing me and playing if it's a good game. So, I just don't see
the excessiveness of it. Well, I'm trying to think of it in terms that I can understand.
Star Trek is an entertainment industry. One of the biggest 800+ episodes now. There are Star Trek
conventions. There are Star Trek cruises. People spend a lot of money. It's a million-dollar industry.
Being fans of that industry. So, I don't think it compares to sports as far as dollars.
No, sports has got the corner on it. NFL has the market of sports. But yeah, there's nothing I mean.
And then even, I mean, that's just here in the United States. Soccer worldwide football. That's football
with a U. Yeah. That pulls the doors off of what we think is big in the United States.
I mean, that's just insane. The amount of money there. So, I mean, we just have the NFL here.
But you have a Premier League. You have the Spanish League. And then you have the levels below
the Champions League. You have always these below it that are trying to get into the Premier League.
And I mean, it's in those stadiums, old 60, 80,000 people. You know, I think it's all
the thing today for the Cheese Game. They were talking the cheapest available seats right now
for the Cheese Game or 95 dollars apiece. That's the cheapest. The most expensive they have right now
are 450. And that's just face value. That's not including when you buy them off market for
through, you know, see, I mean, I think like right now to go to the triple bull for two tickets,
like 10 grand. That's just insane to me. I better begin a lot more than a seat for a few hours.
So, in that to close my mind, like I said, I begin watching and enjoy much easier from the comfort of
my own couch. Are you familiar with the term bread and circuses? The Romans, the Roman politicians,
they came up with the term bread and circuses to keep the populace happy. They would feed them
and they would give them gladiatorial games. Okay. That's what brought in the votes to keep them in
power. So, you think that's what the government's doing? They're giving us the NFL.
They're not feeding us. Yeah. All right. Which one whose turn is that? I got it. Do you think creation
ism should be taught in public schools? I think it should be taught as a thing that shouldn't be,
you know, it should be taught as a bad example. Creationism is pseudo-science. It's making science sound,
or it's making the Bible sound like science-y and it's not. Yeah. There are so many people who say,
I want to say that they say this because I can't imagine that they actually believe it. Every word
in the Bible is true that the earth is only 6,000 years old and everyone came from a man and a
woman created by a deity. Wow. Yeah. That noise you hear is my eyes rolling.
A putting creationism in public schools is like having religion. You're putting it. Yeah. That's
not, I don't think it should be. You're putting religion in schools in my opinion. So yeah. That's
a hard note for me. Any kind of religion, if they want to have a comparative religion class,
you know, where they compare and contrast all the religions in the world, I could see that.
But creationism is just... I can see that there's like a university in college where it's
going to like the class that you can... That's not a public school. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So now, I mean,
or you know, like that you could take, you could select a ticket, but you're going to be mandatory to take.
So yeah, I just don't see any public... I don't see any place for it in public schools.
So, there's so many very vocal people who say this is exactly the way it is and
they're deluded. Yeah.
Yeah. To the point where the alternative is teaching evolution and they believe the evolution
should not be taught because creationism can't be taught. They're turning evolution into a religion.
Well, yeah, and that's not the case, though. No, it's So, pure science.
Pure science, yeah. That's ridiculous. And anybody knows evolution is a thing because
look at dogs. Yeah. There's hundreds of breeds of dogs. And at one time they were all wolves. Yeah.
It's just by There are breeding for specific traits that we got so many different kinds of dogs.
You're absolutely right. So, I can't see how anybody can justify creationism in a public school.
Yeah, again, to see how people justify a lot of things nowadays. Even in a private school,
you know, a parochial school, they ought to at least... I believe when I was in parochial school that they
did talk about evolution as a real thing. Right. At least I don't remember any of the non-sales. Oh,
that's not real. Maybe my mind didn't want to go there. I did not believe most of what they taught.
Yeah. Which is why I did so poorly in parochial school. The best grade you will make in parochial school
is the one they have in religion class. Yeah. That's true. That was that was that was just a miserable,
miserable time for people for a person like me who questions things. And you're not supposed to
question things in parochial school. No. You were told exactly what to think. Yeah. That's not good.
That's not a good environment for education. Is it my turn? Yeah. Should research into cloning be stopped?
I don't think so. Do you think so? Why do you think people would want it to be stopped? Because
they can say religious values. What is the conservative religious values? Cloning because it's not natural.
That's what I mean, that's what I'm taking a shot of the dark. I think what's implied in that question
is human cloning. People believe that human cloning should not be done. Okay.
It does sound like another religion question. Yeah. How do you feel about it? Oh. They do cloning
all the time. Animals are cloned. Plants are cloned. Yeah. It's not going away. No. Do you think
human cloning should go away? There hasn't been any. Right now. Just because we don't have the
technology. I think I suppose it's possible that in some third world country somebody could get
cloning themselves would be very expensive and probably a lot of failures before you got anything.
But you know, if they could clone a sheep, they could probably clone a human eventually. Yeah.
It'd be kind of cool. But I mean, it would have the same features and stuff like that, but it would be
different because obviously the environment doesn't brought up in even identical twins. Are you
getting the same DNA and are brought up in the same environment end up having differences? Yeah.
So, I don't see the appeal of certainly not cloning myself.
I think there may be a little bit of that inherent heterosexuals who want to have kids so they can
have little copies of themselves. I don't get it, but I see it. Yeah. Yeah. I can agree with times.
So now maybe if it was another Albert Einstein, I could see cloning him, but I don't want a copy of
myself. Do you want it? Yeah. I'm trying to think what would be the perks? The benefits. They really
want to be. I think people who have children often experience life again through their children.
Okay. That's why so many parents are like pushing their kids to, oh, you've got to get into football
because I was in football. Do the extracurricular activities and sports events that make up for
the things that I was deficient in? Yeah. That's ridiculous though, because it's not going to happen.
It's not you. You're not going to be able to redo it all. And cloning is like the antithesis of
evolution. If you want to clone a sheep, why? I could see trying to make a better sheep,
but making the exact same one. Too many problems with that.
Bananas. When you see bananas in the grocery store, every banana is genetically identical to
all the other bananas. They're all cloned. And so, you've eaten one banana, you've eaten a lot?
Pretty much. The problem with that is if some disease comes along, there aren't any other bananas
out there that you could go to. It's not like you can find the golden banana. I don't know
really that. So, I don't really see any benefits in cloning. Cloning, man. I'm trying to think of any kind
of a civil being. I can't think of any other type of man. Sometimes maybe fries winning animals,
like a horse that as well in the races though, they'll want to breed it with other horses,
also, too well. And I suppose if you had a prize-winning horse that brought you in lots of
breeding money, you could clone that horse and continue to make more money. It's just really
weird edge cases that I could see cloning being a benefit. I mean, a diabetic, I mean,
when you clone yourself, so you would get up any, because if you clone yourself, you would have a
go-to-harvest organ. Sorry, I'm just organs, yeah. But then that clone, where is that clone's right?
If the clone had a brain anyway. I don't have one, so I guess I don't have to really worry about that,
so. If you only had a brain? If I only had a brain. Yeah, that's a good question.
There's got to be an argument for it. I'm sure it's proven that there are commercial benefits
to cloning, but for humans, I don't get it. Okay. Is it my turn? Yep. Does peaceful protests
achieve anything? I think it does. Not as quickly, but I think it does. I think it'll bring
things to a head, to an issue, to, you know, bring it up. And if you get enough people behind it,
it's, it's kind of like an itch, even a little itch, but it's not that bad. It won't get it scratched,
but once it gets big enough, you'll scratch it. And I think peaceful protests can do that.
What do you think? Over and over again, I have heard people. This is a little close to me, I think.
Over and over again, I've heard people say, "I never got anything by asking nicely for it." Yeah.
So, you don't think peaceful protests does anything? Oh, certainly it does. Okay.
But the loudest voices get heard. I mean, that's how Trump got into office. Yeah.
That's not a very positive example, I guess, but... I'm sure though.
During the AIDS, during the beginning of the AIDS pandemic,
people just expected us to roll over and die. Well, that's what they wanted.
They did not expect patients to advocate for their own welfare. It has never been done before.
I don't know if that's sad. It's dead. That's... on some climb they did though, obviously.
But it's sad that it came to that that you could just sit there and ignore all these people who are
sick and dying because you don't agree with their lifestyle. And even less overt forms of protest,
I think have been successful. You don't see people smoking on airplanes in restaurants, in bars,
anymore. And that's because society said enough. Yeah. So just sitting idly by and expecting
things to get better doesn't work. Yeah. So, I agree, because it's not going to happen. So...
What do you think? I think it does work, but I think there's a time there where it's
AIDS and violent protests, but sometimes violent protests works better. But I think you should
really get to start with a peaceful protest. I'm not for riding, but sometimes people get put in a
corner where that's their only way out. There have been times where activists have gone to Wall Street
and pretty much shut down Wall Street. Is that a peaceful protest? You know, it might be anything
would get hurt. I don't know that the border is pre-grade there. Yeah, I know. All of these questions
are great, great area. People sit down in the subway. No train traffic going through. Is that a
peaceful protest? I would say yes, but a lot of people would say no because you're affecting their
wallet. You're not allowed them to get to work or you're repeating their rights. So, it's an awful
great area. You know, I mean, if you look at both sides, you can see for the protest thing, but then
say you were going to try to go to work in like the summer with your job when they were going to go
on strike. Did you agree with it, but would you have been willing to cross the picket line?
I don't think so. And it's affecting your life and not too. So thankfully in that case, it was over
much before it started. Yeah. So, you know, that's where it's tough. For the most part, I think strikes
are peaceful protests, but depends on your definition of peace, I guess. Yeah. Well, its kind of
goes out the door when people ride and start looting and stuff like that. And in most cases, I think
the people who are looting probably don't even care about the cause. Oh, I agree with that,
100%. They're just there to take advantage of the situation. Yeah. So, we're not going to solve that
question. No. So should women be allowed to fight on the front lines in wars? Yes. I agree. 100%.
I think their capable of doing it, why not? Israel does. Yeah. They have to.
So, I'm not sure how long they have to sign up for, but I think it's two years.
But I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, every, every man and woman has to serve over there.
So now do you think they should do that here in the States? Why not?
Okay. We still have selective service. I mean, nobody's ever called, but they still have the
selective service. I'm sure there are people who are screaming at us right now. Women should not
be doing, well, nobody should be doing war. Well, the screen is probably one thing. It's
a current podcast. No, yeah, no, and it's we're not pro war by any means, but what's good for the
goose is good for the ender. Yeah. So well, but then there's the people who say, no, they shouldn't
because they wouldn't be able to do what men can do. There's a lot of women out there. We can do a lot
of things better than a lot of men can do. Everybody has what's the right term. But opinion, everybody is
good in their own way. And I'm sure that women can contribute to the front lines as much as me in.
Yeah, I agree. And I would also think that a lot of these people who would object to that are
conservatives who are thinking there's going to be a lot of fucking going on. Yeah, those are
already that women and men. And what's the name of the guy who is this speaker now who just got
of Congress? Yeah, it seems the most. I can't think of his name either. He said that he and his son
have an agreement that they'll look at each other's phones for porn that they have weekly
check each other's phones to see if they've looked at porn on their phones. And that seems to
indicate to me that he thinks that if nobody checks on them, but that's what they're going to do.
That's bizarre. So, it's the same kind of thinking that if men and women are together, they're going
to do things. That's not valid anymore. No. Well, they're already schooled anyway. It doesn't matter
if doing the front lines or not, you know what I mean? So yeah, that's So, a weak argument. But
to God, I'm just thrown off by that comedy made by that that's so weird that's just so bizarre.
Wow. Yeah, my mind's kind of just going off in these always weird directions right now. So
look, look at that. Why should assault rifles be banned? I think if you want to play with an assault
rifle, join the military, become a police officer, I don't think any averages and needs an assault rifle
or should be able to get back to someone, not even needs it. They're not used for hunting.
People say, "Well, they're fun." Yeah, so it's dynamite, but get your dick in large for real. Don't buy
an assault rifle. Exactly. I don't think there's no matter when anyone can tell me, they can scream
from the mount-top said, "It's darright," and shut the f-up. It's a weapon to kill people
quickly and a lot of people quickly. So no, I'm dead setting into people with assault rifles.
I think they should be banned. No questions asked. That's a very specific question. Yeah.
If you want to get into more generalities of people, be allowed to have guns, that's
much greater area. But assault rifles, there's just no good reason for individual to have one.
No, no. I'm not against people and handguns. There was a show on last night, I don't remember,
and it was about a guy who murdered a bunch of people. And apparently somebody had
indicated that it was like a red flag that they thought they were concerned about him because
he owned 15 guns. They weren't. They weren't. Well, the police said they were not concerned
by somebody having 15 guns. And I think to myself, how could you say that you're not worried about
somebody who has 15 guns? Exactly. I guess legally you're not. Yeah. That's insane.
And I know there's collectors out there and all that, and people probably listen to this show
that are like, what do you mean? That's fine. You can get your panties in a bunch about it, but
I don't see the point. If you want to protect your house, that's fine. What do you need 15 guns for?
Do you expect an army to come through your door? You don't need an assault rifle to protect your house.
Maybe if it was 15 anti-guns for, you know, you were a collector, but to have 15 guns, nobody needs that.
No. And they have too much expendable income if that's what they're doing, too.
There are other things you can buy and the people have donated money. You could feed a lot of hungry people
with exactly. Yeah, guns are not cheap. No. That's one of the problems I have with my job,
then I'm happy that I don't actually do sales because we sell firearms there. And I don't.
Yeah. True turn. Oh, okay. Should parents be allowed to use technology to choose the characteristics
of their babies? Well, we were starting to go there with the clone dock. Yeah.
Designer babies seems like the fantasy of every straight person. I could get, you know, my baby could
be a Super Bowl champion. Yeah. It takes, it's just because you do that, though, it doesn't mean you're
going to be guaranteed a spot on the winning Super Bowl team in 20 years, 30 years.
Well, I think of this goes sound unrelated, but I'll get go get to it. In there was a book called
The Joy of Sex, it was the best seller. And one of the questions in it was, can I make my dick bigger?
And their answer was, no, there's no real way that you can do that that really makes any big difference.
You can't really make your dick very much bigger. But even if you could,
everyone would do it. And yours would still be small, smaller than the rest. Yeah.
So, if people could design the characteristics of their children to be Super Bowl champions,
everyone else would do the same thing. Yeah. So, you're raising the bar, but you're not really raising
it. You're setting it ahead, but everyone else is going to be falling in line. It's pretty
a point. Well, now do you think it came down to trying to rid the world of, like, say, diabetes?
What's genetic? Genetic disabilities, yes. And they're already doing that. You can screen
a fetus for certain genetic abnormalities and stop the pregnancy there. That's not quite the same,
but that's sort of related. It's not making kids better in some way. It's just sort of
calling the herd before. Yeah. I don't know if you can call that the same thing. No, I don't think so,
either. Yeah. The thing that the Christians say is going to happen. They say gay people should
be very concerned because they'll say it's sometime, they're going to be able to say your child will be
gay and they will decide to abort for that reason. Okay. What do you think of that?
Aren't you doing God's work then? I mean, if you're going to abort the child because it's gay,
I mean, do you see what I was saying? I mean, you don't believe you can't have your cake in either
too. What are you saying? If you're following God's word and all that stuff and being gay is a sin,
and you're committing a sin by aborting the child also. Do you see what I'm saying? Like I said,
you can't have your cake in either too. What about people who say, well, it's just going to be too
hard on that child. I don't want to burden a child with being gay. Yeah. Or I don't want the
responsibility of having to deal with a child who's gay. Then you should have children in my opinion.
I think you're forfeited right to procreate. Good point. Because obviously you're not going to be
a good parent in the first place. You're not picking out a puppy. You could go the other way. What if
a gay couple decide they want a child and they want to make sure that the child is gay? Then they
shouldn't have children either. I think, you know, I think people should, the only thing they should
want is a healthy child in my opinion. When I see people, I just want a boy, I want a boy, I want a
girl, I want a girl, I want a girl, I want a boy, I want a boy. No, you should be wanting it's just
a healthy child. In my opinion. Well, I believe that when a couple says they want to adopt someone
should ask, do you want a girl or a boy? Because if they're definite, oh, I definitely want a boy,
no, you shouldn't have a child. Yeah. You should just be happy with what you get. Yeah, you should just
love to raise a child. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. I don't really have anything else to say on it,
really. We definitely went to a gray area that we can't resolve. Yeah. Most of these questions are
all gray area. All right. Elizabeth's second should have been the last British monarch. Okay, I don't
have a dog in this race. Here do I. I'm sure there's good reasons, but we're gone.
I don't know that the British monarchy serves any good purpose. I don't think they do.
The one difference between their government and our government is in our case,
the president has to serve as both an executive function and a, what is the right word?
Unless they come imperative, but I don't know what to mean. The president not only has to enforce the
law, but they also have to represent the United States. They have to figure out too. Yeah. Whereas in
Britain, Parliament decides the laws, and the monarchy does the diplomacy and the visiting was
so, the American president is far busier than he should be because of doing all these ceremonial
things that a monarch would have done in England. Yeah, but other than that, I don't know that
well, enough to say whether there should be or not. I think I don't have a dog in this race either.
If the British people like it, then leave them there. You know what I mean? If the British love
the royals, it doesn't affect those, like you said, I mean, they don't make political choices.
They don't start wars. They don't say it's interneed. It's basically a ceremonial figure.
I think it's outdated. I don't think it's sort of the purpose, but if that country likes it,
and it's not hurting anybody, that's probably why they still have. Yeah. Who am I to say, you know what I mean?
So, I'm fine with it. At least we can settle what these questions are today. Man, that was the last
question too. So yeah, that's where I lie on that. All right, so what is your favorite joke right now?
I have a message to whoever stole my depression medicine. Okay. Well, I hope you're happy now.
That's good. That's a good one. That was good. I like that one. We hope you enjoyed episode 86
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