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This is episode 94 of the Bear and Curadh podcast.
We're going to talk about nourishment.
Is it worse to eat too much or to eat too little?
I think the proper answer to that is something you don't hear much of anymore in moderation.
I would agree with that, but if I had to pick one, I think eating too much I think is worse.
The reason I say that is, have you ever eaten so much where you're just nauseous and miserable?
You feel like you just have to get one number two, and even that doesn't help.
I've done that before, where I just eat so much, I'm just, where you just want to take
a nap.
Isn't that why you won't eat shrimp anymore?
That's a mix between drinking too much beer and eating too much shrimp.
I think drinking too much beer had a lot to do with that.
Thanks for bringing it up one of my shining moments of my years.
But I think, I mean, what we consider too little is probably with the standard meal it's
actually.
I mean, like portion size.
True.
For an American.
I mean, Americans are really gluttonous.
When we go to the grocery store in the frozen entre section, there are frozen meals which
I'm guessing are meant to be one-third of a 2000 calorie diet.
And I look at those and I go, I could eat three of those.
Yeah.
And that's the meal.
Yeah, so I think, I think as Americans, I think we eat too much in the first place.
Even like when you pour a bowl of cereal, I mean, most people fill a bowl up, but the actual
serving size is about a third of what it's supposed to be eating.
So, I think, you know what I mean, I think.
And then, you know, and I mean, how many people go to a steakhouse and go, who can be the
smallest eagle in the menu, no, it's, what's the 32 ounce or the 64 ounce, you know?
Yes.
Four ounces is the amount of protein you're supposed to have for the entire day.
Yeah.
That is a piece of meat about the size of a deck of cards.
That's tiny.
Yeah.
That's an appetizer.
Yeah.
I mean, like whenever we go to the steakhouse around town, I always get the larger fillet.
I never even, I look at the small one, but no.
So, but yeah, I think that's kind of a, it's a mixed bag question right there.
Should we be in junk food?
No.
I mean, there's so many little things that are enjoyable in life, why not partake in some
of them?
True.
I mean, I mean, it is pretty bad though, when you go grocery store, I think you were telling
me about how I saw a documentary where they were interviewing a guy from England and he
was making a comment about how we have a whole aisle dedicated just to chips.
Just ounces potato chips.
Potato chips.
I think he called them crisps.
Crispy.
Yeah, that's what they call them.
And that is kind of ridiculous, if you think about it, I mean, it's, wow.
That's mind blowing.
We don't even think of anything of it.
No, we just happily walked out and then pick out whatever we want.
I mean, you know, and they come out with new stuff all the time.
Oh, yeah.
Just add to that.
Just for more variety and snacks.
Yeah.
But, if you look at most, I mean, what do they tell you when you go grocery shopping, go
grocery shopping, if you stick to the outer ring of the store, that's the stuff that
you need.
Everything else in the center.
The store is pretty much just not necessities, but I don't agree with that because there's toilet
paper down that aisle, down in the middle, and you need that.
So.
Well, if we had one of those Japanese toilets, we wouldn't.
Why then?
And you still paper?
Mm-hmm.
What?
No, they have a built-in bidet.
Oh, okay.
I'm a fan to dry you off again.
Okay.
Better wake you up in the morning.
That sounds to me like if I had the thousands of dollars to spin to get one of those I would.
But you really?
Yeah.
You guys excited about that?
You'd have a clean, high knee all the time.
Yeah.
Did wake you up in the mornings?
Oh, it's heated water.
Still wake you up.
I don't care.
I mean, it's gonna be heated all the time so you have water pushing your poo poo out.
Poo poo.
Sorry.
There's a language.
There goes my eighth-grade humor.
But yeah, I mean, I don't think we should ban junk food.
Maybe.
Cut back on a little bit, but I think we do pretty good around here.
I'm thinking of how many boxes of donuts and Ho Hoes and Cheetos we have in the house right
now.
Mm-hmm.
You eat a lot of that stuff.
My biggest downfall is the ice cream, but I don't eat that many chips and stuff like that.
And I have not been able to eat them.
Yeah.
I mean, there's some chips in there.
We probably should throw away, like, tag me in the mountains.
I only eat them with dip and the dip is probably bad.
No, that's good.
I checked that the other day, some of the French ended up.
So no, I don't think we should ban junk food, what do you think?
The problem with giving people a choice is they choose wrong.
So no, we shouldn't ban junk food.
Yeah.
I mean, you should have the option, but you shouldn't use it.
Yeah.
But, I mean, what's the fun of buying fruit and vegetables and having that as a snack?
I mean, you're pretty good about that though.
You've been, you've been eating vegetables this night for a while.
Oh, yeah.
Um, I don't have enough teeth to, to, and, right now, here, it's in celery anymore.
Yeah.
But maybe we'll get back in, maybe you'll get back into swinging that, because I'm not,
I'm not jumping on that bandwagon.
All right.
Should we only eat food produced in the United States, America?
That kind of sounds like a manga thing, doesn't it?
Yes, it does.
Yeah.
Um, it, it, how do I put this?
We have such an incredible variety of foods from all cultures all over the world.
In the grocery store, there is something new every day.
And, um, just because there are, I don't know, avocados, you know, that were never in American
diet ever before, just because they came from someplace else originally, doesn't necessarily
mean that the ones cheer eating came from some far-off land.
Yeah.
I think probably came from some commercial farm right here in America.
Probably.
But, I do, I do, I think it's wonderful that we have such a variety of foods.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Um, the only thing I got going through my head is that commercial now, avocados from Mexico.
No, it, it does something like a mega comically, um, I mean, we ship, there's probably a lot
of stuff that is shipped in from other countries.
And, I think the staples, corn, wheat, beef, chicken, I think we ship out a lot of that to other
countries.
Yeah.
But there are these huge farms with like 2,000 chickens.
They're disgusting.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mostly, but I don't think we'd eat chicken again if there was a lot of them.
It's turning farming into an industry.
Yeah.
Um.
But there are 7 billion people on the planet we have to feed.
It's a way of, it's a way of repopulating it.
I think they say the best sustainable population is half a million.
Wow.
That's if we didn't have industrialization and stuff like that, I believe.
Mm-hmm.
But, no, I don't believe that we shouldn't, to see food that's just produced here though.
I think that's just, uh, it's a silly kind of, I like tacos too much.
Yeah.
Well, even though the tacos we make are completely white bread, there's nothing makes
kind of battle.
I mean, we eat with them.
We eat the kids, so.
I, I once got it on with a Mexican guy and he said, if you want to know what goes in an
authentic Mexican burrito, go look in the refrigerator.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It's sort of moving, making fine.
I'm going to put it in there.
Okay.
Do you think ads for sugary cereals should be banned from children's television shows?
No.
Well, to start, um, what are children's television shows?
Saturday and Sunday mornings, it used to be full of cartoons, none of the broadcast channels
do that anymore.
No, it was, you know, the date of the zoo type of shows, uh, which is good.
Yeah.
And cartoons, I guess, though, um, I guess if people, poor people who can't afford streaming,
want to watch cartoons, they're out of luck.
Yeah.
Pretty much if you just watch something over the air.
Um, sorry, that's not, has nothing to do with food, but, uh, no, you're right, though.
This question doesn't really apply anymore because, um, there isn't really children's television
on broadcast, and what there is, um, doesn't advertise cereal or anything.
It's usually insurance and warranties for your car.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
I mean, but now they actually have network, television for kids streaming burrito.
Yeah.
That's true.
And, um, most of those, if you worry about commercials, you can buy an option to not
have any commercials, um, no, I don't think they should be banned.
It's, it's, I think it's kind of, um, I don't know, that's what we grew up with.
I don't think it does that much harm.
Kids are going to find it when we're in another.
What do you mean by that?
Well, the grocery store, I mean, you go up in the aisles.
It's nothing but sugary, um, cereal, anyway.
And then sugary, yes, sugary, filled cereals are, are right at kids' eye level.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, like the other day, one of the rice crisps is one of the very top shelf.
Yeah, we had a hard time finding them.
Yeah.
And I mean, kids don't want rice crisps.
They don't have sugar on them.
Mm-hmm.
But they were on the very top shelf.
And the reason I wanted them is because they're easy to achieve.
Mm-hmm.
Whereas, if you go eye level for a kid, it's Captain Crunch and--
Captain Crunch and--
That stuff will tear the heck up in your mouth.
That looks like eaten needles.
Yeah.
It's pretty rough on your mouth.
Do you think they should ban it?
I just don't think it's necessary anymore.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Mm-hmm.
Sugar.
If vending machines had more healthy food options, would they sell?
I couldn't tell you the last time I bought anything out of a vending machine.
Oh, I don't know.
I mean, can you remember the last time you bought anything out of a vending machine?
It was at the hospital.
Oh, was it?
Yeah.
And they did have healthy options.
I guess in a hospital it would be embarrassing if they didn't.
You could buy an apple or an orange milk.
Okay.
They also had the regular junk food, but they did have healthy options, at least in that
hospital.
Okay.
I don't think I've been to any other places where you see a lot of vending machines.
Oh, I guess they haven't met work.
Do they?
I think those are mostly like soda.
Okay.
That would make sense.
If I go down to the cafeteria, I can buy an apple or an orange or a banana.
In fact, I brought a banana home for you one day because I couldn't eat it.
You can have a salad.
I think people mainly buy their hamburgers.
Their food is just atrocious.
Well, it's like going to a restaurant in a hotel.
Really?
They don't have to be good because you'll go there anyway.
Yeah.
That's true.
That's too bad.
You figured you'd want to take care of your employees a little bit better than that, but
I guess not if they're all captive.
When my father worked for the William Berkeley Junior Company, the employee cafeteria had
like hamburgers for a nickel and French fries for a dime.
Everything was sold at cost, and it was made by people who cared.
The goal of that cafeteria was not to make money.
It was to give the employees good food to eat.
I think most cafeterias at big companies now are profit-making centers.
Yeah.
The cheapest food, and you sell it for the highest price that you will get with that thrown
it away.
It's another source of income.
That's too bad.
Yeah.
I don't know, I would help to think that there were healthy food options in many machines
that they would sell, but I mean, it doesn't think they'd be interested to know what the
statistics are.
I would be afraid that those apples would spoil before anybody bought them.
Yeah.
They'd probably sell a lot right after New Year's Eve, when everyone's on their gong-go
diet.
So, they just put them in there for a month, and then just replace a piece of the peanut butter
cups and snickers.
I don't think it applies to me.
I don't feel like I've ever been in discrimination against.
Yeah.
Well, I want to continue fat though, I mean.
True.
I see a lot of people who are much, have a much bigger body mass than I do.
Yeah.
I mean, there's people who come into the shop all the time that are way, ever way.
I think my BMI is like 35.
No, I don't think it's that high.
Yeah.
There's it.
I mean, I've got those scales that stand on with naked feet so they can measure you, and
I think that's what it is.
Although in the last six months, I've lost an awful lot of weight.
That brusqual bladder will definitely affect your food.
Do you think as you're tasting food change since then?
Well, what I want to eat.
No, you can eat, isn't it?
Yeah.
That's mainly from having the teeth extracted.
I had two teeth extractions in the last month, two months.
Yeah.
So, I haven't eaten anything but soft food like pudding and soup since New Year's.
Yeah.
I'm going to get that all taken care of soon.
So, you can start eating, they can, no, dark meat, chicken, stuff like that, so.
Well, I don't, I don't know, I think if you talk to fat people, they're going to say they're
discriminated against.
But in like, not, well, you hear about people saying, well, I was at a restaurant and I ordered
cake for dessert and everybody's eyes were old.
But that's never happened to me.
Yeah.
I guess I just don't hang around judgmental people.
Yeah.
You're going to eat it, eat it, my opinion, you know what I mean?
But then, if it wants to know while it works, people will see me eating, I don't know, well,
after I, right after I got that tooth extracted, I could eat donuts and pudding.
So, I was eating a donut and somebody commented that that shouldn't be on your diet because
you're diabetic and I had to educate her that when you have diabetes, you can eat pretty
much whatever you want as long as you take the right amount of insulin for it.
Yeah.
Well, you're still not supposed to, but yeah, but you know, you're correct.
Yeah.
I'd definitely told her to kick rocks in my room business.
It's been getting, now they may come, it's a work all the time, should you be eating that?
They had a birthday party for me and everybody brought sugar-free stuff.
Oh, look at that sweet.
Mm-hmm.
Was it any good?
More than everyone do not eat any more than one of those candy bars.
Yeah.
Because it's a geeky butt.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You don't want to be the cause of that.
Mm-hmm.
So, I mean, that's terrible to say, but I'm not overweight, so I don't know, I haven't experienced
pain discriminate against for my weight, so I know that I can't speak on it.
For the you, I'd say it's the opposite, you like big guys.
Yeah.
So, I don't know, should all children be given free meals at school?
Yes.
I agree.
But you're going to have some physical conservative types who say, well, that would mean giving food
to rich kids who could afford to have, I don't know, it's like there's some big piece, a big
pie, and if I can't think of an analogy for that.
Mm-hmm.
Look why I give it to someone that can already afford it?
Yeah.
So, do you have the commands that can afford it, bring in their own food, whereas the kids
who can afford it?
Then there has to be a cut off, and some rich family is going to take them to court, saying,
if you give food to poor kids, you should give food to my kids too.
And there are people who will take advantage of any system that you set up.
Oh, yeah.
They're doing, I think food should be given at school.
Kind of like, poor analogy, but you feed the prisoners when they're locked away, don't you?
Mm-hmm.
So, and I mean, and then this stereotype, you can control their diet, make sure that they
actually, do get a pretty good meal during the day.
So, they're not eating just junk food when they go, well, I believe some studies have
been done on that, and they find that when kids are given healthy food, they just won't
eat it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So, most school cafeterias have a menu, a healthy menu, and then they also have hamburgers
and hot dogs.
Wow.
So, then the kids will eat the non-healthy items.
You know, if some kids say I won't eat asparagus, then they can get a hot dog instead.
Okay.
Which is worse, sugar or fat?
It's a moderation actually, so, in large abundance, in large amounts, they're both bad
for you, but if you moderate it, I don't think it's-- they're okay.
I believe that on a molecular level, it doesn't matter.
Okay.
Everything that you take in has to be broken down into simple compounds that your body can
process.
Mm-hmm.
So, you know, it doesn't matter if you eat nothing but sugar cubes, then having some deficiencies
in minerals and whatever, I don't really think it matters that much what you eat.
Yeah.
It all turns its way in the field, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
A lot of people think if they eat fatty foods, they're going to break out in pimples and
nets because their mothers told them that to make them not eat so many hamburgers.
Mm-hmm.
There's no truth to it.
Yeah.
Same thing with sugar probably.
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, I don't think one or the other is worse than the other, so that's why I said moderation.
I'm sure there's some doctors and scientists who could disagree with us and have really
good reasons, but in basics, I don't see much difference.
Mm-hmm.
Cool.
Okay.
Would you eat a vegetable-based hot dog?
What do you think?
You won't eat any hot dogs.
I'll eat some, I'll eat all beef.
Good ones.
Mm-hmm.
They're expensive ones, but I want to say I try it, but I really don't think I would.
Well, and you won't eat an unknown hot dog, if you don't know what it is.
That is all beef for not you.
Yeah.
Although you do that at Terry Queen, you buy their hot dogs and you have no idea what's
in them.
I believe they're all beef.
Mm-hmm.
And it says on the signs, "So I put..."
Mm-hmm.
I don't know.
You know, I get it with cheese and mustard on it.
You could put...
I guess they could put a hot dog in there.
They could put one of those vegetable hot dogs in and you might not know the difference.
Yeah.
That's true.
I almost got a job with a company here in town that is there, this whole new division
for vegetable-based proteins.
Oh, yeah.
And I suspect that that group is one of the ones that invent is promoting this vegetable-based
hot dog.
What?
It seems to me like if you...
You shouldn't be trying to make vegetables look like meat.
I mean, if you just want to eat vegetables, eat vegetables.
Yeah.
Well, a lot of people are confused in the vegetable-based, that it's good for you, with all the stuff
they add in, but it's not...
Mm-hmm.
Probably not.
It's not good for you.
But you're getting away from eating meat, so it's better for the environment.
Mm-hmm.
That's the gist of all I do.
Those huge farms, quilt farms, 2,000 chickens.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And cows are far worse on the environment than cars are.
Yeah.
That's all the methane and stuff.
But I don't...
I mean, it's...
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I...
I don't...
Just...
He...
Curadhs.
He...
He's in tofu.
Tofu or something like that.
I mean, I guess it's a good way to get people to try to eat them.
Yeah.
It would have to be molecularly so similar to nobody could tell a different.
They really need to invent that food replacator they have on Star Trek.
Well, yeah.
I mean, then you don't have to worry about any of them.
Mm-hmm.
You don't have to raise any animals.
No.
You just...
You know, wish for it.
And there it is.
Sounds.
That would...
Fix a lot of problems, because then you could...
Don't worry about money to get the food.
So...
But yeah.
Um...
Would you eat a vegetable-based hotdog?
Yes.
You would?
I would at least try it.
Yeah, I figured you would.
I figured you would.
In...
Thousands of foods that I have tried.
That...
Sometimes I like them.
Sometimes I don't.
Just because it's different doesn't mean I won't eat it.
So, you would definitely try.
I figured you would.
And I heard that P-based...
P-based protein is really good.
I don't know.
I don't think I ever will.
They specifically brought that up in that job interview I had with that company.
I really?
Mm-hmm.
Did you tell me how long?
I...
So...
I think the...
The meat industry is seeing where it's going and...
I think they've got to be prepared.
Yeah.
It's coming down the line and it's...
I think it's just a matter of time.
Mm-hmm.
When they figure it out.
Do you think we should all be vegetarian?
Yes.
In practice?
No.
Okay.
It's expensive to be a vegetarian.
It's expensive to eat healthy.
To...
To eat healthy?
Yes.
I can't say it's more expensive to be a vegetarian, but...
If you have your own chef who can make good tasting vegetable meals...
Yeah, it's easy.
But somebody who is coming home from their shift at 6 p.m.
and needs to put something in the microwave for the kids...
You're not going to have time for that.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Because it takes a lot longer to prep and fix since the result.
I mean, to make it taste good, it does.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I...
But now, it's just not feasible this time to be...
for everyone to be a vegetarian.
Well, if you think about it.
When we plan a meal, we go, "Well, what do you want?"
What you're actually asking is, "What meat do you want?"
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So, you want chicken or do you want beef or do you want pork?
Yeah.
That's true.
That's very true.
And then...
And then I'm terrible about getting vegetables.
You're good about sneaking them in.
Mm-hmm.
So, you always sneak them in.
And I'm terrible about putting them in.
So...
But my idea of vegetables is corn with the remaining meals too.
So...
That's like, you know, I got that from my father.
But, um...
I couldn't imagine being a vegetarian to be honest with you.
You know, I mean...
I'm not that much of a steak eater, but I do enjoy chicken.
Make sure to.
Only white meat though.
Only white meat, which drives you crazy.
Mm-hmm.
But I do eat beef and I do eat pork.
Can you imagine trying to be a vegan?
No.
Do you have too many rules?
You have to tell everybody about it.
You didn't get that one.
But no, um...
No.
It's a great peak and I did a bit of vegetarian, but it's just...
It's not happening.
Yeah, I don't think so either.
Looks like we're at the end of the show.
So, what is your favorite joke this week?
Why did the vegan cross the road?
To tell everyone they did it?
To tell everyone they're vegan.
Ah, I knew it.
So...
I finally got one.
It only took 94 episodes to get one, but I finally did.
All right.
We hope you've enjoyed episode 94 of the Baehr Curve Podcast.
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This is Curadh.
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