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This is episode 97 of the Bear and Curadh podcast.
We're going to talk about the Queen's English.
Okay, slang language initially emerged as a way for queer people to humane key with one
another while avoiding detection by mainstream society.
Do you know what these words mean?
Polari.
No idea.
Well, there is a reason why I put that one first.
A form of slang historically used by some actors, circus, and fairground shaman, professional
wrestlers, merchant navy sailors, criminals, sex workers, and in particular the gay subculture.
There was a series on HBO called Carnival. . . Did you ever see it?
I never saw it, but I heard about it.
I saw the previous one.
They spoke Polari often.
All right.
We would always subtitle it so you knew what it was in English.
Was it a good show?
For the time, I guess.
Okay.
There's one of those and I thought I was always going to go back and watch.
I think there's also a British documentary on Polari, and they showed two like Victorian
gentlemen having a conversation, and you really could not figure out what the hell they
were saying without an interpreter.
It's interesting.
It's not like that so much now, but that's where it comes from.
Okay.
A hundred-footer.
Once again, no idea.
And obviously gay or lesbian person as if visible from a hundred feet away.
That's good.
I like that.
ACDC.
ACDC is a band from Australia.
Think about it.
Just think about it for a second.
Positive negative.
It's just going to make me make my best.
Okay.
So just don't think about it.
A bisexual reference to swinging both ways as in both AC and T.C. and Bedextrius.
Thinks both ways kind of like bisexual again?
A euphemism for bisexual.
So, it's close to that one.
Artiste.
Very fine point in gay person.
I'd never heard this one before.
Have you?
You're just guessing on that.
I'm guessing on that.
A gay man who exceeds that full ratio.
Okay.
So, he's an artiste because he's good with his mouth.
Oh.
Oh, I got it.
Good with the flute.
There you go.
Yeah.
That's got to be what it is.
Anti.
Would that be a lesbian friend?
I think you know one.
Like you.
An older, often effeminate and gossipy gay man.
Okay.
Bambi.
Young gay man.
A lesbian who prefers cuddles, hugs, kisses, and other affectionate and sexual non, and
sensual non-sexual acts over sexual acts.
I had never heard of that one before.
And I think I've been around the gay block a time or two and that one was not familiar to
me.
Beth Jiba.
No idea.
This is not going to end well for me.
A gay man who frequents gay bath houses.
Okay.
You probably haven't heard of that because we don't have any of those here.
No.
A beach bitch.
Probably so many of us going to the beach to turn tricks.
I don't know.
A gay man who frequents beaches and resorts for sexual encounters.
That's close on that.
Almost all of these are sexual innuendos.
Bean flicker.
I have no idea.
I don't think I'd heard of this one either.
A lesbian liking the clitoris to a bean.
Can I?
I don't have any sense.
Probably bean flicker too, I don't have any guess.
Bean queen, also taco queen or salsa queen.
Someone who likes Mexican women, a lesbian who likes Mexican women.
A gay man attracted to Hispanic men.
Okay.
I think we'll probably come to it later on because these are in alphabetical order, but queen
is pretty much any gay man, no matter what they're like.
Okay.
Bear.
Do you know what that is?
Yes.
What is it?
A gay man that's hairy, overweight.
A hairier and often larger man, but not necessarily gay.
I guess that's true.
There's a lot of celebrities that we call Baehrs that we know are not gay.
That's true.
Beard.
Beard?
We both have them.
No.
He's a one of us, too.
Wow.
So, this is talking about what's happening on a blind?
What's the blind?
What's he talking about?
What's happening on a blind?
Now, this one is a very old one and I'm surprised you haven't heard of it.
A person used as a date romantic partner or spouse to conceal one's sexual orientation.
Yeah, I've never heard of that before.
For instance, Tom Cruise, what is his wife's name?
His wife.
Yeah.
Kitty.
Yeah.
What's her name?
I know you're talking about kitty arms.
She's a Baehrd.
Okay.
Beat.
Beat?
Mm-hmm.
Terrible Red Vegetable.
Now, this is B-E-A-T, B-E-X-O, music.
It's what you did, your husband.
The B-E-O, thanks.
An area frequented by gay men where sexual acts occur.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Bender.
Bender?
I know what that means, and it's striking me, you need to tie one on and go out and get drunk.
This one also goes way, way better.
Yeah.
No?
Someone who has homosexual intercourse, in other words, bends over.
Hmm.
Kind of.
Bent.
No idea.
Well, think about the one we just said.
The person who bends that person over?
Gay as an opposed to straight.
Okay.
Bicon.
Hey, convicted bisexual.
That's a good theory.
I had not heard of this one either.
Por Montu of a sexual plus icon used to refer to a bisexual celebrity.
We talked about Por Montu's on the last episode where you put two words together that aren't
really related.
Hmm.
Bottom.
You know, someone who receives a receptive partner in intercourse.
Yeah.
Breeder.
Straight people.
You know this one.
Straight people.
You know lots of breeders.
Hmm.
A heterosexual person, especially one with children.
Yeah.
Brownie queen.
Someone who likes black people.
Yeah, that could be, I had not heard of this one before, obsolete slang for a gay man interested
in anal sex.
Hmm.
But it does sound like it could be the other bull dyke.
Yeah, I very masculine lesbian.
A masculine lesbian.
You got that right on word for word.
Hmm.
Busy.
Busy?
Hmm.
I have no idea.
Now, this one is really popular, but it's just real recent.
Yeah, this isn't said it sounds really recent.
A Por Montu of boy pussy, in other words, a male anus.
Hmm.
See, so many of these are any windows.
Hmm.
Butch.
It's another man's killing the masculine lesbian, isn't it?
J.I.
I don't think it's limited to lesbians.
Let's see.
A gay person, but usually a lesbian, but pirate.
Someone who's gay.
A gay man who enjoys anal sex.
Bike.
I buy sexual lesbian.
Good choice.
A bisexual dyke.
So, I'm getting used to these camp or campy.
Someone who likes having sex out in item now.
This one goes way back.
I mean, to the origins of gay people, I would guess, an exaggerated and amusing in a way that
is typically associated with gay men or femininity.
Like, um, the Batman and Robin TV series was camp.
Okay.
Carpet buncher.
Lesbian.
You got that one right away.
I'm going to go down and see it.
Lesbian or rug buncher.
Chicken queen.
That's a good one, I don't know.
Someone, I, a gay man that likes cock.
That one goes way back to.
An elder man interested in younger or younger appearing men.
Hmm.
Chicken.
My younger gay man.
The youthful man, chickens are hairless and young with a slim or skinny build.
Okay.
Yeah.
Chicken hawk.
Someone who likes chickens.
Huh.
A typically older man who seeks younger men.
Okay.
I guess that's the problem with having an alphabetical order.
They kind of give up each other.
Yeah.
Chubby chaser.
Someone who likes chasing, you have a statement, someone who chases overweight men.
A man who seeks overweight males.
Got that almost word for it.
Clone.
Clone?
No idea.
This one goes back a way, but I don't think you hear it much anymore.
A San Francisco or New York Greenwich Village, Denison with exaggerated macho behavior and
appearance.
Hmm.
The leather guy in the, what's the name of that band?
Village people.
He was a clone.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because they all look alike.
Closeted.
Someone who's not out.
Keeping one sexuality or gender identity a secret from others.
Cuckstruction worker.
Um.
Straight acting gay gay guy.
This actually is what it says, a gay or by or queer man who works in construction industry.
Okay.
I don't think I heard this.
Um.
A lot of these words, there are a lot of books on the subject of Polari.
Hmm.
And I swear a lot of these words, they just made up for the books.
Yeah.
And this seems like one of them, because I've never heard that term before.
And I've heard of you.
Cocksucker.
So many such cock.
A person who practices phallacio coming out of the closet.
Directive coming out.
It coming out has become such a synonym that it's now a word of its own.
Everybody even straight people know what coming out to admit publicly or acknowledge oneself
is non-heterosexual.
Cruising.
Trying to pick up gay men or women.
Seeking a casual gay sex encounter.
And I think straight people do this too.
Hmm.
In fact, some of them cruise actually in cars.
Yeah.
Cuck.
Young Baehr.
A young Baehr, exactly.
Daddy.
Older gay man.
A typically older gay man.
He's got that one right on the nose.
Down low.
So many of them down low keeps their sexual identity quiet.
A homosexual or bisexual activity kept secret by men who have sex with men.
I think that is more common among black people.
Hmm.
It's sort of their dirty little secret, that men have sex without anybody knowing it.
Okay.
Dike.
That lesbian.
Isn't that what holds the water back?
Slur reclaimed by women who are attracted to women in the 1950s.
Dicon.
That dying.
That lesbian icon.
Yes.
And I'd never heard this before.
It kind of makes me wonder if it was made up for this list.
Hmm.
A poor man, too, of Dic plus icon.
A celebrity woman who is seen as an icon by lesbians.
I guess like Ellen DeGeneres.
Yeah.
Fag Hague.
Straight women that like gay men.
So, you knew this one.
Hmm.
Christie's a fag Hague.
So that's Angela.
We'll have to make sure they both listen to this show.
A heterosexual woman who specifically associates with gay men.
Hmm.
Fag Stag.
So, I would imagine it's the other way around where it's straight men, heterosexual men.
Yeah.
I've never heard this before.
A heterosexual man who enjoys the company of gay men.
And I could actually see it in the closet.
That's why you never heard of it.
They come out and become queer.
Yeah, exactly.
Fag it or fag.
Toronto in term for a gay person.
A slur against gay men.
A fag it is a pile of sticks used to burn someone at the stake.
Hmm.
Did you know that?
I didn't know that.
You didn't?
I did not.
Hmm.
But I did.
That's kind of where the word comes from.
And also in Britain, when somebody asked for a fag, they want to secure it.
Figure it out.
Ferry.
A flamethrower in gay men.
A slur regained by reclaimed by gay men in the 1960s.
That was sort of before my time.
I know it's true.
You do still hear the word from time to time.
Flamer.
There's another flamethrower in gay men.
A stereotypically gay man.
I kind of wonder where that comes from.
Hmm.
Kind of like walking too close to the flame or something, maybe.
It's been around a while.
Hmm.
Friend of Dorothy.
I have no idea.
You've not heard of this.
No.
I mean, um, um, it goes way back again.
You still hear the term.
He's a friend of Dorothy.
Um, again, Polari, where you can say that in front of somebody else, and the other person
won't have any idea what you're talking about.
Hmm.
A gay person, likely a reference to Judy Garland, who portrayed Dorothy in the Wizard of
Awes, and had a large gay fan base.
Hmm.
So, a friend of Dorothy.
Fruit.
A gay person, gay man.
When you've heard this before, he's awfully fruity, I've repeal say that.
A slur against gay men, originally a stereotype of gay men as softer and smelling good.
Hmm.
And I did not know that.
I've heard the word fruit for the long time, but I did not know that it meant softer and
smelling.
No, either not.
Fudge Packer.
Someone performs anal sex.
Someone who works in a candy factory.
Yeah.
Well, that's what we'll call it now.
A homosexual man who is presumed to enjoy anal sex.
Gaydar.
Uh, the ability to pick up on people are gay.
I'm surprised you knew this because you're no good at it.
What do you mean?
You have terrible gayadar.
A supposed ability to detect someone's sexual orientation.
And I don't think that's a general term.
I think it means it's mainly gay men who can pick up other gay men where heterosexuals can't.
Come.
That's how I would define it.
Gillette Blade.
No idea on that.
Yeah.
This one also goes way back and I don't think you hear it anymore.
A 1950s era term for bisexual women whose sexuality cuts both ways, like a Gillette Blade with
a blade on both ends.
Gold star gay.
A superstar gay person.
I can go on.
A homosexual who has never had heterosexual, sexual intercourse.
So, they're like you?
Yeah.
Well, actually, I think mine is further on down the list, we'll see when we come to it.
Heterosexual.
I mean, they swing both ways.
To be mostly heterosexual.
Yeah.
Homo.
Gay person.
Shortening of homosexual often derogatory.
I guess, although just the word gay has sometimes been derogatory.
Homo flexible.
Someone who is gay, but goes the other way.
To be mostly gay.
So that sounds like a, that sounds like a match hunter.
Hmm, aggressive gay man.
Tell me you, you don't know this, I'm shocked.
A man who preserves Baehrs.
Okay.
Light in the loafers.
Light in the pants.
Light in the fedora.
A flame boy and gay man.
A polite serve for homosexual man.
Hmm.
So, when you're in a crowd of people and you're talking about somebody and you say he's a little
light in the loafers, that means he's gay and nobody else understands that.
Okay.
Lipstick lesbian.
Um, they're feminine lesbians.
A lesbian who displays historically feminine attributes such as wearing makeup, dresses and
high heels.
Hmm.
I don't think I've ever met one.
Do they're metal lipstick lesbians?
I don't think so.
Really?
Well, they're more common now than they were.
Hmm.
Back in my activist days, if they were all bull dikes.
Yeah.
There's a lot more of them now.
Molly.
The cat that we own.
Is that how she got her name?
Hmm.
Molly, isn't that a drug?
Um, possibly, I don't know much about drugs, but it sounds familiar.
Molly's the condensed drug.
It might mean something else there, right here.
In 18th century England, the term Molly was used for male homosexuals, where the term
"Molly coddle" comes from.
Hmm.
So, if a mother-molly coddle served a son that he'll turn out gay, muff-diver.
Hey, what's being he likes performing for you?
It's just a lesbian.
Okay.
Nanty boy.
Feminine gay boy gay man.
Do you know this one?
I think so.
An effeminate homosexual man, sort of a Molly, I guess.
Pansy.
And a very, no other job feminine gay man.
I don't think it's necessarily effeminate, let's look at the definition here.
A polite term for homosexual man that can be said in public.
For instance, look at all the pansies.
Hmm.
So, I don't know that it was derogatory, it was another coded word, "pig."
Um, got sexually aggressive gay man.
Someone who is more focused on sex than anything else, which I think is an excellent definition
of "pig."
Yeah.
Platinum star gay, and someone who's never ever had any sexual activity.
Even more than that.
Never touched a woman.
A gay man who was born by C-section procedure, having never seen a vagina in person.
Is this you?
I think so.
You think you're my mother C-section?
I think so.
Hmm.
I don't think I want to ask.
No.
Especially if she asked me why I want to know.
I want to know what you're ranking is in the game.
I want to know if I'm a Platinum star gay.
Poof or poofter?
I have no idea.
Have you not heard of this?
No.
Oh my god.
It's the sound of pussy makes.
But what cause it did you live in?
It's the sound of pussy makes.
And a feminine gay man.
Oh, okay.
I think it's more of a British term.
That sounds like power-bottom, coming to strictly a bottom.
Someone who dominantly or energetically plays the receptive role in intercourse, which sounds
like a way complicated way of just saying a pushy person.
Hmm.
Puzz.
Someone with AIDS.
Where are you, HIV?
HIV, positive person.
Hmm.
And that's a relatively new term.
Even after the AIDS pandemic was going for a while, there was no test for it, so nobody
was positive.
Hmm.
There was just no way or no.
Punk.
Punk?
Hmm.
A young gay person.
This one surprised me because it does not mean what I thought it means.
What do you mean?
A smaller, younger gay man who, in prison settings, is forced into a submissive role and used
for the older inmates' sexual pleasure.
Hmm.
Uh, not what I thought it was at all, and that's a term that must have evolved.
Pupp or puppy?
I know this, but I can't think of how to put it.
Isn't it a young, young gay man?
In animal role play, someone who wants to be treated like a puppy with love and affection
by a handler.
Okay.
That's weird.
That's a pre-thero-definition, I guess.
Yes.
Queen.
A very feminine gay man.
Not necessarily.
Really?
A gay man, but not necessarily a feminine.
Hmm.
I mean, it's just sort of a general term now, like being queen or a rice queen.
Hmm.
You know what a rice queen is, right?
Does it have an Asian?
Someone who prefers Asians, yes.
I don't think that's on the list or we would have come across it already.
Queer.
A gay person.
Originally a slur against homosexuals, transgendered people, and anyone who does not fit society,
standards of general and sexuality, later reclaimed and used as an umbrella term for
sexual and gender minorities.
Hmm.
I have found myself using the term queer, even though when I came out, it was not a positive.
Hmm.
I mean, it was definitely a derogatory term.
I've probably said this several times on the podcast.
I remember when the police chief was quoted in the paper saying, "We don't hassle the
queers."
That's right.
Yeah.
So, he was doing it while he was saying it.
So, it makes that word more difficult for me to accept, but I think I have.
Okay.
Oh, here we go.
Rice queen.
Do you know what that is?
That's what we just had somebody.
Yeah.
A gay man attracted to mainly Asian men.
Scissoring.
But lesbian is them.
Like go on dates and sexual act by lesbians.
U-Halls and scissoring.
You know it's scissoring is right.
Only because of South Park.
Okay.
Really?
That's hilarious.
Lesbian intercourse often derogatory.
Yeah.
Silver fox.
Does that look like a gay older man?
A gay older family?
Yeah.
Don't you dare call me that.
An older man with gray hair.
You can't be my silver fox.
I don't have gray hair.
I have white hair.
That's called way past gray.
Straight.
I'm sorry.
I'm still caught by the silver fox.
Because you said that was Sebastian too.
Don't you ever call me that.
I'm sorry to mark that.
I'm going to check that out on me.
I'm a polar Baehr, not a silver fox.
Yeah.
Because I think if I even took a round about it, you're going to get pissed.
So, I can't do it.
Oh, man, it's all positive now.
He's I ever did it in the future.
I mean, it's a tongue and cheek, so you're my little silver fox.
No, you're my Baehr.
Straight, heterosexual, heterosexual people.
Not homosexual or bisexual.
Okay.
And I have a problem with this word.
I don't like to use it.
Why?
In Boy Scouts, when their credo is, well, one of the one of the credos of being a boy scout
is to be morally straight.
And I don't think that Baden Powell, the guy who started the Boy Scouts, actually put that
in there because he was gay.
Um, it makes me, when I hear the word straight, it's, it feels like they're separating.
Superior.
Um.
Okay.
And I don't care for that.
Yeah, I just, I view them as straight, they're, they're not as fun.
Not bent.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Switch.
Switch feminine, feminine activity, like you switch, like they'd switch into the room.
Effeminate.
Okay.
Tom Boy.
A boyish lesbian.
It's more, more complicated than that, actually.
Really?
An athletic young girl who prefers masculine activities and suspected to be a lesbian.
Hmm.
Okay, so, Tom Boy, okay.
That's kind of a sad, if there are many Tom Boy's going up?
I don't think so.
Really?
I was just thinking that the concept of it seems sad.
Well, I always thought it was just, that's, you know, if Tom Boy was to call it like playing,
like, put the boys and, yeah, and growing up, that's the way it was used, but now it's,
turn it to a little bit.
Suspected to be a lesbian.
Yeah, that's the right, you know.
Top.
Someone who gives.
Like me.
Hmm.
Like, I give all the time.
Yes, you do.
Never appreciate it.
Oh, okay.
Self-refox.
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Hmm.
Top.
The dominant or inserting sexual partner usually in a homosexual relation or activity.
Okay.
I suppose you could have straight tops too, and nobody ever talks about that.
Trade.
I have no idea.
This one also goes way back.
It sounds like it's an older one.
A straight-passing male partner.
Hmm.
Make you your trade.
I'm trade.
Hmm.
Trow.
Trow?
Where's a trow?
Trow.
I have no idea.
I don't like the matter of this trow.
I know.
It is a recent term.
Head trow?
Someone who is not queer from head trow sexual.
Head trow, okay.
And I was actually sort of on the committee to come up with this term.
Really?
Um, during the age crisis, they wanted a word for heterosexuals that was easier to say.
And talked about it quite a bit, and that's the word that they decided on.
Trow.
Really?
Yeah.
Hmm.
Twink.
Feminine gay man.
A younger or younger-looking man with little body hair and a slender build.
Twunk.
Hmm.
I have no idea.
I twink, I twink.
I twink, I twink, I twink.
A twink with well-developed physique from twink and hunk.
Okay.
Another apartment to unicorn.
Me.
I mean, unicorn.
Uh, something that doesn't exist.
I have no idea.
What is it?
You got your halfway there.
This is a long one.
A bisexual, usually female who is willing to join an existing couple, and sexually satisfy
both members of the couple, so named because such bisexuals willing to enter into such an
agreement are not considered rare or non-existent.
Do you?
That's not really me.
Verse.
Verse a little.
Top and bottom.
A person who enjoys both topping and bottoming, yeah, I think the word comes from Versatile.
Hmm.
In fact, I think people use the word Versatile instead of verse.
Hmm.
That it?
Yep.
That was it.
Okay.
What's the interesting episode?
I don't know.
Do you have anything to add to it?
You want to hear the joke?
Oh, yeah, of course.
So, the joke this week.
What do you call a gay dentist?
I don't know, I have no idea what a gay dentist you asshole can get out of here.
I like my answer better.
I was going to say tooth fairy.
There you go.
Let's get one.
Okay.
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