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This is episode 100 of the Bear and Curadh podcast.
We're going to talk about episode 100.
Woohoo!
100 episodes!
It's a long time.
We made it.
Yep, finally.
Yeah, so it's quite a milestone.
I believe I saw a statistic that only 3% of the podcasts that have ever been made have
made it to 100 episodes.
Huh.
So that means there's about 2 billion that made it from about 100 episodes in.
Could be.
Because there's so many podcasts.
Yeah, isn't there like 200 million podcasts?
Something like that, so.
I enjoyed them.
So, I mean, we never went into it expecting anything, so.
Mm-hmm.
Kind of been our therapy, some occasions, and got a lot of laughs, some tears out of it.
Mm-hmm.
But we still do it, and we still plan on doing it for a while, don't we?
Yep.
How did you first learn about podcasts?
I think it was sometime around 2010.
Okay.
MP3 players had come out, but they weren't popular until the iPod came out and I could
not afford an iPod, but my partner at the time bought me an MP3 player.
I think it was called a ZVU.
Our SS feeds had just started going, but there was no way to aggregate it.
So, I wrote myself a program that during the night would look for new episodes of the podcasts
that I like, and download them onto a SD card.
And then when I went for walks, I would take the SD card out of the computer and put it
in the player and listen to them while I was walking.
Mm-hmm.
That's cool.
Did you find the quote enjoyable?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I've always liked walking more for my mental health and for my physical health.
Yeah.
It's a nice way to pass the time.
At that time, the only audiobooks were on cassette.
And I had a Walkman, but I just never used it.
Mm-hmm.
Probably a little too fancy.
No, I think the battery case, the lid, the holds the batteries in, broke or something, and
I had to tape it down every time I just didn't use it.
I would have to say I learned about podcasts.
I think a little bit before then, but I didn't know much about them, the only thing is there
was a bar that I used to get to in town called Rain.
It was the early 2000s, maybe 2005, and they had speakers set up at the bar for a quote
unquote podcast, and anyone could go and talk to them and say one or two and host a podcast
show.
But I'm like at a bar?
It was at a bar, yeah.
And there would be sports on the TV's and people's obnoxious people yelling them.
I think they were more enamored with the idea of actually hosting something like that, but
I had no idea about the technical side of it.
Just because they had these microphones hanging from the bar, I didn't mean, I mean, you could
just walk up and do a podcast.
I mean, even I know that it takes a little bit more work than just that.
But yeah, I never saw anyone actually do it, but that was my first running with podcasts.
It was probably just another feather in their caps, so they could say they had it and I think
I saw one group of people talking on them one time, and the people that they were doing
it, annoyed that a lot of me, I couldn't imagine giving them a microphone.
They annoyed me when they weren't on them, given the platform, so I can't imagine how annoying
they would be once they had a platform that, you know, but yeah, that was my first running
with podcasts.
Compare how it started versus how it's going.
Our show?
Yeah.
I think we're both more comfortable with it now, in the beginning I think we both kind
of carted a little bit more.
I think we're more free willing to speak up and I think it goes a lot smoother now.
I think our personalities and show a little bit more, I don't know, I mean, what do you think?
Well, I tend to think of the technical side of it and it's far easier now than it was in
the beginning.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, now you can go through an edit whole thing in an afternoon before it took
you a few days to do it.
The RSS feed, when we first started, I manually typed it all in and then had to check all
the tags and we'd have to calculate the length of the MP3 file and make an image and attach
that to image and it was very complicated.
It's much easier now.
That's good.
I start out with a word document, a different one, a new one for each podcast and then I organize
what our thoughts are and where our questions will be and when we do the podcast, we kind
of read off of those and when I do the website, it would copy text from that document into
the webpage and make a webpage and instead of having to calculate all the numbers and everything
I wrote myself a program and I just click a button and it does it all.
So, it's much faster, less error prone than it was in the beginning.
Yeah.
That's good.
Most think that a successful podcast has 100 episodes or more and do you agree with that?
I suppose based on that kind of spam that I'm getting; advertisers think that 100 episodes
is a successful podcast.
Okay.
So, I get a lot of emails from marketers saying, "Oh, we can quadruple your audience and things
like that and those messages just go right in the trash."
Okay.
You don't read any of them.
I look over them but no, no, few million dollar offer.
No.
No, just a lot of people who say, "If you pay me money, I can get you more listeners."
Yeah.
And I'm not interested in that.
Yeah.
I mean, we've done this kind of as fun.
We never did it to monetize it or anything like that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It bugs me when I go looking for podcasts for new ones, you can kind of tell the ones that
are only in it for the money.
About half of all the podcasts started have three or less episodes.
How did we get to 100?
Hard work.
I don't know.
I mean, it just, it seems like we've just plugged them all, I mean.
Persistence.
Persistence, yeah.
You had this idea.
I think we started it when you were an employee.
You wanted to learn something new to put on your resume.
So, we just kind of, then we kept on going and going and going.
I mean, if you think about it, we started this before the pandemic and we're four years
in.
I don't think it was quite that long ago.
I guess if you count when I first started saying, I think we should do a podcast and then
I spent months researching what the best, what kind of podcast we should have and how to
make the website look attractive, how to make the format because I listen to a lot of podcasts
and I recognize that the ones that I like the best had a format that was consistent from
one episode to another.
So, I wanted to have that and I think all that pre-planning kind of worked because the format
of our podcast hasn't changed very much from the beginning.
I mean, I like our format, I mean, changed every week, the subject changed every week.
But no, I like the way it's gone and it's impressive with how much work you've put into it.
People ask me about it and I'm like, I'm just get up here and talk.
You're the one who does all the work and you're the one who edits it and compiles it and
does all the work.
I give the easy, easy path out.
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to say how we got to 100, I mean, do you have any just persistence?
Yeah.
Yeah, there's no secret.
But I don't commit to something that I don't think I can follow through on.
Yeah.
Were you determined to get to 100?
No.
Okay.
I didn't have any set, no.
Okay.
So, what's your goals for it now?
Get to 200?
I mean, you just want to stop now and I don't want to stop.
But we'll just keep doing it, you know, as long as it's something that we want to do.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't see you stopping anytime soon.
I mean, it's a lot of fun.
So, we both enjoy it and give us something to do.
The only limit I can see is the way we formatted the episode names with the three digits means
we have a hard stop at episode 1000 because we can't get, we only have three digits.
So, 999 episodes is going to be all that we can do.
I think we got a lot of ways to go, yeah, I don't think I'll probably live that long.
Probably not.
Sorry.
How long does it take to create each episode?
Four to five hours.
I would say that on a per episode.
When you count the beginning, where I make the document that has the questions and make
the web page, I do all that ahead of time and then record it.
And I listen to each episode at least twice while I'm editing, sometimes more, more editing.
Although I have found, I'm not as heavy with the editing now as I was in the beginning.
Writing a few ums and and and sniffles in is okay.
Okay.
Show us, it'll be more human, more humanly.
Well, just because I don't want to have to make a fourth and a fifth pass through the episode
before I put it out, I used to be, well, we'll come to that later, we'll come to that later.
What makes this podcast different from others?
That's a good question, um, I have an answer right off.
We don't ask people to like, follow, subscribe or join our Patreon.
That's true, yeah, yeah, I'm very true, um, but if you want to, I'm kidding, um, yeah, we don't
have much less of stuff like that, so, um, pretty much nailed it on the head.
Fortunately, most podcasts do that, do that at the very end and my podcast player will let
me cut so many, so much time off the end of each one and so I just skip all that.
Yeah, that's good.
I'm trying to think how ours is different besides that.
I don't know, I think every, I think every podcast is different.
It really depends upon who's hosting it, even, you know, the style, it's hard, it's hard,
I mean, it's just, it's different, but, you know, I mean, I don't listen to many podcasts,
I really don't have, um, something to base it on, like, you know, well, I only know of one
other podcast that has two gay husbands doing it.
Which one do there's a lot of gay podcasts, but most of them are, um, a bunch of friends
or, or something like that.
I only know of one where there's a gay couple doing the podcast.
Okay.
Who are they?
Have I listened to them?
Yes.
Okay.
It's not enormous, isn't it?
No, those, they're, they're friends, right?
They're friends and both of those guys have husbands.
Okay.
Um, I cannot think of the name of it.
It's not about monkeys, not them, these are tastes like burning.
I think it's tastes like burning.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't think I've ever heard of them.
Yeah.
It's been in the car.
Hmm.
Okay.
I have to pay more attention than, like I said, you know, you're the one that listens to
more of the podcasts and I do, I just catch them when you're playing them or in the
car.
Do you think doing the podcast has made you better people?
Uh, we're, we're, we're, we're no worse, you know, than we were.
I guess it has to be true, but I can't think of any, any examples.
Hmm.
I think we're pretty authentic.
Yeah.
I think so too.
Um, I'm trying to think, um, when, when we first started it, we send it out to some
of the other podcasts.
Um, I'm trying to think of what they said they thought about them.
Um, I think I'll send to city.
I'll send it was one of the, uh, boys, he described it, um, you know, authentic was probably
the thing we heard the most from them when they would give us feedback on it.
Um, pretty open.
I've had some other podcasters complain that we obviously are reading off of a piece of
paper for a lot of it.
Well, that's because that's what we're doing.
Yeah.
Hmm, maybe we need to change that.
Get a teleprompter.
Hmm.
Think of somehow figure a way out to do, um, work around it, I guess, bring it up in a nonchalant
sort of way.
It sounds like hard work, and I'm not putting any more work into it.
Okay.
Well, well, next that idea, then, um, yeah, I don't think it made us any worse people.
We, um, we don't use our real names, but, um, I ran a gable and board system in the 70s.
And I learned back then to kind of put a wall between your personal life and, and what's
out there?
Yeah.
And what's out there?
For instance, at that time, they had a function where somebody could request a chat
with you.
It would make a sound, and if you wanted to, you could, you could chat with them by typing.
And, um, early on, um, one of the people who had one of those bulletin boards said, disable
that chat immediately.
That's the first thing you should do is disable it.
Because if people worked out where you lived, they would know that you have a computer that
they can steal.
And if they can chat, and you don't answer, they know you're not there, and they can go steal
your computer.
Huh.
Wow.
Which was, you know, a big deal back then, computers were expensive.
And so pretty much ever since then, even during my activist days, I have always used
a second phone number, um, always had a P.O. box, um, in fact during those days, there was
one time when, um, four other activists that I knew got their fire bombs on their front
porches.
Really?
And I was the only one that didn't, because I didn't give out my address, I always gave
out the P.O. box.
Huh.
So, it's prudent to, you know, not give out too many personal details where somebody could
figure out who you are.
Mm-hmm.
That's scary.
That's, that's real scary.
We've been fortunate enough.
No one's figured out where we really had any harassment or anything.
Nope.
So, and we've been really good about keeping things kind of private.
Well, not necessarily private, but we, because we talk about our private thoughts, a lot,
but we never mention anything that could be kind of traced back to us.
Yeah.
You know, because we do talk about our jobs and what we do, and stuff like that, so.
And it never mentioned the name of the company.
Yeah.
That's the best way.
Mm-hmm.
I do remember recording a little bit at the zoo with my mother.
And every other sentence was, she was using my name or your name or where I worked, or I
couldn't use any of it.
And you said delete it all.
Yeah.
Well, did you tell her beforehand, nothing to talk about it or--
Yeah.
It's different now.
Yeah.
She's going to do what she wants to.
Yeah.
So.
Have you covered all the topics you thought you would when you started?
You're shaking your head now.
I don't think--
I don't think we have.
I mean, that's-- I think we've--
On our first episode, we had seven topics that we thought we would want to cover in different
episodes, and we have covered all seven of them.
Yeah.
So, look at that.
We're about 1,000.
We've done 100 episodes.
So, I mean, you're really good about coming up with new, new stuff.
And that's not hard to do.
I wish people who say, I dread doing the next podcast because I don't know what to--
Well, when I have a little app on my phone where I keep notes, and whenever I think of something,
I put it in there, and right now, I probably have enough stuff to do, maybe, another dozen
episodes.
Oh, well.
So, it's not hard, if you're-- I guess if you're like a writer sitting in front of a typewriter
with a blank piece of paper on-- and you're trying to think of what to write, that's pretty
tough.
But if you put down your thoughts when they occur, as weeks goes on, it's not hard.
Yeah.
It's impressive, though.
I mean, I'm impressed with the stuff that you come up with every week, because you come
up with some new, fresh ideas, and I just-- I would never think of.
So, I'm not above stealing somebody else's idea either.
Well, hats off to you, though, because I mean, that would be the hard part, I think.
And you've done a really good job on that, you know, for me, it's a week, and it's a lot,
so, cheers to you.
I don't know how to say this, mine, and there's a compliment there.
It's like something I enjoy, and you should be proud of it, and I'm proud of you for doing
it, so.
I do enjoy doing it.
I mean, I was hesitant about doing this in the beginning, and then you know, sometimes
storing it, you know, doesn't know about it, but it's something that I've grown to enjoy.
We've kind of made it into a habit.
Yeah.
It's something we do on Sundays now, and it's just-- it's our day, I mean, it doesn't revolve
around it, but it's something-- it's like getting up in the morning, going to eat breakfast
on Sundays.
We know that we're going to do it, and we're going to lie, and there's nothing else gets done
before we do this, really.
It's really-- we don't squeeze it in, we replicate time for it.
And it's just, I would say, probably one of our top priorities on Sundays.
Yeah, I guess, because we do say, well, you know, if we do this, and this, and this,
it's not going to leave enough time to do the podcast.
Yeah.
And, you know, like, we both do enjoy doing it, and, uh, so, um, yeah.
Do you like listener feedback?
I do.
Particularly.
It's, to me, it's rejuvenating.
You just mentioned this the other day, when we got an email from Paul Cobb.
You know, because, like, we've talked about before, when we do this, we don't do it for awards
or accolades, or anything like that, we do it pretty much for our own fun.
It's, it's like, tongues, like we've talked about, throwing stuff out into the void, and you
don't know if anyone hears it, or pays attention to the likes that this likes it, or anything.
So, when we do get feedback, it means a lot, because, to me, it does, because, if you finally,
you're getting that recognition, but I guess you are, you're, you're being recognized that
someone actually is listening to it.
And you know that you touch someone, you know, um, so I, you know, I, you know, that I get
a big kick out of it.
I think it's just neat, um, you know, so I enjoy it.
Well, for those people out there who listen to podcasts, um, and, and they say, you know,
I'd like to do something to support the podcasts that I listen to, um, don't immediately think
about getting your wallet out and making a donation, write them an email, because that
means so much, mm-hmm, you know, it really makes it, you know, feel worthwhile, and it makes
it worth it, it really does, um, you know, so we've kind of feedback from a few people and
stuff.
And I think we're really good about acknowledging those people once they do, you know, feedback.
So, but I, I really do enjoy listening feedback, um, maybe like I said, it makes it all worthwhile.
And it's not like what we're looking for, but it does make it worthwhile.
It does put a smile on my face, and I think you enjoy it also.
What has been the most rewarding aspect of the podcast so far?
I would say that our friends and family have learned more about us.
Yeah.
Especially your family, because they're, they're located so far away, and they've only
met me a couple of times.
Mm-hmm.
And I think they have said that they, they like, um, learning about me and learning about us.
Mm-hmm.
And my sister in particular really enjoyed it, um, because she really, she really met you
twice.
Mm-hmm.
We're wetting and then we went on vacation.
So yeah, she, she, she, she brought that up to me when we first started and she feels like
she's getting to know you better and all of that, so, um, I don't think anybody in my family
listens, they don't, I don't think they would know how, and, but, uh, friends have, have mentioned
to me, um, I've learned things about you too, that I wouldn't have known any other way.
And we, from time to time, learn new things about each other.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Just, you know, because it's stuff that, you know, I mean, I think we know each other pretty
well, but I mean, there's stories that come up that, you know, we, we have learned from each
other.
Mm-hmm.
Every once in a while, I, I call me and I, I did not ever know that about you.
Mm-hmm.
I had a, like, our pain in the butt cat, um, but yeah, I mean, it's, it's, yeah, I think, I
think you've been more surprised by me, though, with some of the stuff that I told you than
vice versa.
Mm-hmm.
So, but it's been fun, you know, and it's, um, so, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's all, I'm sorry.
What was the biggest challenge?
Getting you to talk, I'm kidding.
No, I thought that would be one of the challenges of it, it would keep you getting you to talk, but
you get on hearing you, can you just go and, if I have something to say, no, I, I always
wanted to be a writer and I've always said, I can't, because I can't write 100 words when
only 10 would do.
Mm-hmm.
And if it's, if it's something relevant, and I try not to repeat other people's lies, um,
so, I try to be a little recognizant of, of what I'm saying, um, if I'm not exactly sure,
I'll say that I'm not exactly sure.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, correct.
But I think our biggest challenge was just starting.
Do you think so?
Yeah, all the planning, when I first brought it up, I'm, I'm sure you were like, what
do we do?
Yeah.
Um, and, and so there was a, like months and months of planning that I did before we ever recorded
an episode.
No, I mean, I remember in the beginning, you wanted to, some of the ideas you put out there
we're talking about sports, and it's like, you're crazy.
And then it occurred to me that that would be one of those three-episode podcasts, because
how much, how much can you talk about that?
Yeah.
I could talk about it, but yeah, I don't think anyone would want to listen to that.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, it all kind of came together though, I mean, um, but I think our biggest, we, we were
so open to everything, so I don't think we, we allowed anything to hold us back, do you
know what I mean?
There is a podcast, a science podcast that I listened to, um, I won't say what its name
was, but this guy who is a good science communicator was talking to a scientist, and about 45 minutes
in, um, he asked the scientist a question, and the scientist said, um, we've, we've, a lot
of the time that the university has given, is paying me to do this, so I'm going to stop
now, hmm, hmm, that's, that's kind of funny.
It's, it's, what's they call monetization, I hate that word, it's, it's just trying to
get rich.
There's a lot of people who think, oh, you know, I could be the next crime drama, I could,
I could sit, I could put a microphone on my kitchen sink and, and do a podcast and, and get
rich, um, the really good ones, um, I don't think get rich, I don't, I don't know where I was
going with that.
Now you're fine.
It's, yeah, I mean, I don't think we should ever start out trying to do that and make money.
It's not, the, the ones that make money are rare.
Those are the ones who talk about making money mostly, yeah, but like, you can tell what, what's
important to them.
Yeah.
But like Joe Rogan and other podcasts that build big ones, they're, they're anomalies.
They're not, it's like trying to become a pro, pro athlete, your chances of making money
on doing a podcast are something on, so I'm just enjoying for what it is.
Yeah.
And just, just have a good time with it.
Yeah.
How was the process of putting out episodes evolved?
That's a good question for you.
It, it was very difficult in the beginning, we didn't have very good equipment.
Um, people advised me not to buy an expensive microphone and headsets and everything, because
I said, if you get to three episodes and you decide it's not for you, you've just spent
all this money.
So, our equipment did evolve at one point.
We got a field recorder; I think you bought that as a Christmas present for me.
And that changed things considerably, because we could do it anywhere.
We didn't have to both sit in front of the computer.
And the, um, just recently, I upgraded that, that field recorder to 32 bit.
And that's a technical term, but it means that no matter, no matter how loud you laugh at
one of my jokes, it won't ruin the entire podcast.
Okay.
Yeah, the technical stuff I'm not aware of, so, um, it's, you know, so that's all the behind
the scene stuff that I'm not aware of, but I just buy the stuff when you say you wanted,
you put it on your wish list and that's when it goes and buy it.
And I know, you don't put things on your wish list for just, for it, frivolously.
So, but, and, and there were some things that were kind of bugging me that I would get wrong
constantly.
So, I ended up writing program to do all of those things for me.
Well, so you put a lot of effort into this.
Yeah.
How many programs do you think you've written in my life?
No, for the podcast.
Oh, just the one.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Here we go.
Is the podcast authentic?
Yes.
We're authentic.
We're, we're not, we're not made-up characters.
Um, we really do talk about things as, as we see them.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It's authentic as can be.
You know.
I think the people who do the conspiracy podcasts, I don't think they even believe what they're
saying.
They're just saying what they think will get them the most reaction.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
But no, ours is authentic.
I mean, there's no ulterior motives, um, you can tell by our subjects and not only change
and stuff like that.
I'm not trying to get people to join our Patreon so they can have more money and, yeah, yeah.
Um, yeah, um, I would say it's about as authentic as it can get.
Mm-hmm.
So.
All right.
Do you expect the podcast to grow?
Honestly, no.
No, I don't see.
Yeah.
I like more.
I guess it depends on what you mean by growth.
Um, if they're meaning getting more people to listen, um, it's probably likely to organically
grow, um, as it has, but, um, the number of listeners doesn't matter to me.
I just want to put my thoughts on record and have them be stored somewhere for posterity.
Yeah.
Well, I hope we get more listeners.
I hope we get more feedback, but it's not to be all involved.
It doesn't happen.
It doesn't happen if it does it does.
From time to time, I look at our downloads to six and it varies wildly from 300 a month
to about six and her to month, and that's the total downloads.
So, you never know if somebody heard about us today and there was a hundred episodes and
they downloaded all 100 episodes, that would look like, you know, a, a, a, quite a big, a huge
number.
But, um, that's mainly just because there's so many back episodes now.
Yeah.
It's amazing though.
You think about it?
It's a lot of time.
Oh, the hundreds of combined hours of people listening to us, I should think about that
that will make me nervous.
Maybe we have a little army that's following us right now, and we don't even realize it.
Please, people don't.
We're just two, we're just two Baehrs living, living in the middle of Midwest.
So, nothing we say is that important.
All right.
Is the format of the podcast important?
I guess I mean, do we really have a format?
The long thing we really do is we get on here and talk and then you tell your joke of
the week.
Well, as I said earlier, we have an intro.
We usually talk a little bit about current things and we have the questions and then we
have the joke of the week and it's just the same format and it's obviously, um, is a good
one because we've kept that format since the first episode.
Yeah.
It seems to be working.
We both enjoy it.
All right.
What have you learned by doing the podcast?
Um, I learned a lot about sound editing, something I'd never had to do before.
How to cut out the ums and the aus and the sniffles and the lips smacking and all of that.
A fidgeting, cat's making noises.
Nairs making noises.
So, um, I like taking photographs too, like going to the zoo and taking pictures and people,
you know, they'll inevitably walk in while you're taking a picture and they'll say, "Excuse
me."
I didn't mean to do that.
And I say, "It's okay.
It's all part of the process."
Yeah.
So, I think I've kind of learned that in the podcast, those things when a heavy truck drivers
by or there's a train or a uh, uh, the next-door neighbor's dog is barking that that's part
of the process and I don't necessarily need to edit all that out.
It makes it real.
Yeah.
In fact, we've embraced it now with the, we practically record with the windows open.
Yeah.
And it's like before, like the cats would come by, we would edit that out now if they come
by.
You know, so, but, you know, kind of just use a glimpse into our lives a little bit.
Yeah.
So, what would you do differently?
Well, I don't think we would do anything differently, would you?
I would build a soundproof studio room in the house or move somewhere on top of a mountain
where there's no barking dogs, there's no trains, there's no cars going by.
Um, I suppose there's no place on earth you can get away from the airplanes.
Yeah.
So, um, all those things that we said they were endearing, you'd still want to get away
from all of it.
Um, if I could have done it from the beginning, yeah, yeah.
So, I guess I would have to agree with that, but yeah, I mean, I don't think there's anything
so, pressing that we would have to change anything though.
Yeah, would you agree if, if we were doing it like so many people who think that they're going
to be millionaires by having a podcast, if we had done it for the money from the start,
we would have certainly done a lot of things different.
Yeah.
So, we kind of just do it for the level of it, so, have you used the podcast for other purposes?
That's kind of a strangely worded question.
We have submitted our podcast to, um, an archive that the library, our local library, did
about COVID.
We submitted our COVID episode to that, that group and we've also, um, submitted a story
core, which is, uh, an archive, um, done by, um, the library of Congress, I think, but
it's administered by the NPR, okay, and it's, it's a lot of heartfelt stories between people
who know each other, um, we've submitted several of our episodes to that.
Okay.
Yeah, um, that's the only thing that we've really done with it, isn't it?
Yeah.
Um, I've tried to get it to go to archive.org, or ICAR, or ICAR is, um, to, um, keep copies
of the podcast in case something happens to us, um, because it's, it's hosted on a domain
that I've had since like the 1980s, but if I stop paying the bills, that, that's going
to come away.
Yeah.
So, I've been trying to find a place to get it permanently archived.
Okay.
All right.
Uh, how many more episodes do you think there will be?
Mm-hmm.
As many as we want.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't see any ending in sight, so, um, a lot of podcasts, um, will eventually fade
out. It'll be longer and longer between episodes until you, they're finally just don't get any
and two years later, you say, okay, I guess I'm taking them off my, my aggregate list.
Mm-hmm.
And that always bugs me.
Yeah.
Uh, I wonder what, what happened to these people?
Mm-hmm.
So, I think if we ever did decide to stop, I think we should do one last episode saying we're
going to stop, and this is why, and give people a reason, you give some closure, I guess.
Yeah.
I think they wouldn't only be fair to them.
Maybe they're handful of listeners that we have, both of them, both of them, yeah.
So, well, that looks like it's the end of it.
Do you ever joke this week?
What do you call a gay couple who can't afford therapy?
I don't know.
What do you call a gay couple who can't afford therapy?
A podcast.
That's good.
All right.
I mean, that was a good one, you got me there, all right.
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