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This is episode 101 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.
We're going to talk about contentious issues.
What do you think about control over our own bodies and reproductive choices?
Sounds like a good idea.
Yeah.
Pretty simple, isn't it?
But you should be able to...
But politics has made it incredibly complex.
Especially giving personhood to fetuses.
So even a couple or a clinic that's trying to do infertility treatments can't.
Because they're afraid of being charged with murder.
Person prosecuted him for murder.
It's like you said, it's contentious.
It's the government sneaking in and trying to tell people what they can and can't do with
their bodies, which is ridiculous.
And it's just not the government either, it's the religious right.
It's like we're listening to that podcast today or really today.
You know, I know that any kind of Christianity, I have nothing against people doing what they
want to do, but it's their beliefs trying to tell me what other people should do.
That's where I have an issue with it.
You can practice your religion on all you want, but why do you feel the need to put your
religious beliefs on to me?
And it really doesn't affect us so much because we're not women, but it's just not right.
I think that laws that exert that kind of control over a person's private activities will eventually
affect us.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
They're not going to stop.
They're not going to stop there.
You give them an inch and they take a mile.
It just leads to other bad things, so.
Federal funding for women's health care clinics.
Well, this is specifically written the way it is because you can't have government fending
for women's clinics because those clinics would do abortions and the federal government
is not allowed to do abortions.
Yeah.
Because they just returned rivers as well.
They just don't want to have the birdie.
It's something that's needed, but they can't.
They know that allowing abortion services would interfere with that.
Yeah.
So that's a no-go then.
Okay, a national health care system.
We are the only industrialized country in the world that doesn't have it.
It's ridiculous, isn't it?
Yeah.
And I don't see any argument against it that really can stand on its own.
People say, "Well, it takes too long, it'll be overburdened, it'll take months and months
to get in to see a doctor."
Over the exaggeration.
Bologna.
And Bologna.
Richard Carbidge.
I don't know that I want the government deciding what they'll pay for in regards to my
health care, but it doesn't stop people from also having private insurance.
Yeah.
It's not.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I think we should have it.
I think there's definitely a need for it because not everyone can afford health care.
And the whole health care.
It's tied to your job now.
Yeah.
And so certain jobs get it and certain jobs don't look at my job.
It's unfortunate enough to be married to you where your place of employment offers really
good benefits, and so we have the luxury of using that.
But on the other hand, if I didn't, you know, I mean, I would be completely screwed.
Both of us would be when I had that burst gold bledder that would have put us in the poor
house.
Yeah.
Responses to public health emergencies.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
What do you think about responses to public health workers?
So it's just picked covid about, yeah, vaccines.
Well, it's further down, it does talk about vaccines.
But maybe they don't think that masking should be required.
Yeah, which or certain businesses were felt that they were overburdened by it.
If it was, if it was something greater than tuberculosis, covid, I'm thinking tuberculosis.
If there was a massive outbreak of tuberculosis and there was no vaccine, we would expect public
health care to mandate, you know, that businesses close and people stay at home and whatever.
It's just because, well, lots of people died from covid, not nearly enough died to make
for these people to think that there's a need for the masks and things like that.
Yeah, I mean, it's every, they turned it into a political issue when it should have been
just the right about.
It should have been about public health, public health.
And people who, it wasn't that difficult to put on a mask, especially, I mean, but it was
mostly the selfish right saying, no, you're not going to take away my rights to do what
I want to do with my body, but yet, but yet, him, what do we just talk about?
What do we just cover?
So it's just, it's, it's hypocrite is mind numbing.
So government food or housing subsidies, we're talking about food stamps here.
I think they're needed.
And I think that it's run poorly, um, I mean, there's, there's horror stories about places
like Mississippi where they're jet landing in the street or something, um, but places like
the Mississippi that they have it set up, but no one ever gets approved for it, but yet,
they use the spending on other crooked things.
Um, I haven't heard about anything, oh, yeah.
That's what bread far have gotten trouble for, um, basically they were using the money that
was set aside for public housing and food and stuff like that, um, and then turned around
and used it to build a multi-million dollar volleyball court where it is, is all on the
monitor.
Made to the good old boy network, petting, you know, scratch my back, all scratchers.
No, I, government food, I mean, I had to go on it to the stamps when I balls my leg.
You remember that?
But I mean, there is abuse in it though, there are people who, well, in any system you've
got people trying to gain the system.
Yeah.
So I think it's, there's a need for it.
Um, I think you should judge a society based on how they treat the, the least.
Uh-huh.
The people with the least.
Yeah.
Well, this, but this society judges the people with the most.
What do you mean by that?
We, we see that the, the, the halves have it and that's the, the, the, when that's a word,
poor, poor, poor, poor, poor by your bootstraps.
You can do it.
Well, the, the people, the people, assuming you have bootstraps, the people, the people who
say that are the ones who have to do it though, you know what I mean, so I kind of wonder if
people who want to give a pass to billionaires, uh, think, well, maybe someday I'll be a billion
years, you know, I, I want to be that way.
A lot of these people who are billionaires, a lot of them work for what they had, but I think
some of them are so far removed from what, what the real world is like, they have no idea
what it's, what I can think of an example of that Trump right now, sitting in court, court
every day, yeah, listening to people tell him what an awful person he is and the bad things
that he's done.
I don't think anybody in his, in Trump's entire life has made him sit down and listen
to any criticism. He's just surrounded himself with, with the, with the S. Men and, yeah.
And, um, now all of a sudden he's confronted with a horrible being he is, yeah, yeah, and
he don't like it.
Well, did you think he cares?
I, I don't care if he cares, I, I think he needs to hear it.
Oh, I do too, but I just don't think, yeah, I think it's fun about deaf ears.
I think he still thinks he's just gonna walk away, he's got free and, you know, he believes
that he didn't do anything wrong.
He never thinks he does anything wrong, which is the problem.
So, but hopefully, hopefully it does somehow hit home.
The only problem I can see with justice is that people will make him into a martyr.
I've already had, I mean, there's people who already have, I mean, the one guy put himself
on fire.
I mean, so there's, there's people who really already, you know, he gets, people still denying
the election, never, the election, I mean, people who are an active government, the speaker
of the house is an election denier.
How do these people have office?
Well, and those offices that they don't pay well, but yet they, their debt instantly goes
away.
Their debt goes away.
It's a little obvious.
So they're not in their pocket, special interests.
They should be forced to walk a mile in our shoes.
Yeah.
There should be term limits and they should have to do that, yeah, exactly.
They actually walk a mile into constituent shoes, but they'll never do it.
So, cleaner environment and clean renewable energy sources.
I think it's good.
I think we're heading down the right path.
I just wish that was moving quicker.
Yeah, they keep pushing those requirements further down and further down until we're going
to get to a tipping point where it isn't going to make any difference.
And they just keep kicking the rock down the road.
So, let our grandchildren take care of it.
That needs to stop, but at least they're talking about it.
At least, you know, so, I mean, that's, that's some progress.
So, vaccines, a word sentence that says so much.
Yeah.
I don't get the whole argument against vaccines, I don't.
Well, you see pictures of, like when the polio vaccine came in and people were lined up
around the box to get it.
And where does people go, I mean, it's a lost generation.
You know, it's like, I think a lot of science denial is in there too.
It's just like a generation that started the World War II, I mean, there's like the people
don't exist anymore.
They don't, it's all me, me, me, me, me, me.
But if you write, it's a lot of science deniers to hear people like Tucker Carlson and all
these right-wing pundits that are just morons.
Well, doing things for the betterment of society, I mean, that used to be expected, people
would do that.
It's, it's not happening anymore.
And voting is something you do for society and for democracy.
And I wonder how many of these people who are complaining are actually voting, because that
would be a burden for them to do.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I realize you can't compare vaccines to votes, but that's the society we have now.
Yes, it is.
Unfortunately.
The teaching of race, gender, sexuality, and the hard history of the United States in schools.
It's like it needs to be done.
And what does that mean, the hard history of the United States in schools?
Like slavery.
Oh, yeah, definitely, critical race theory and stuff like that, it needs to be taught.
Critical race theory actually doesn't exist.
Oh, okay.
It's just a name that is a hot topic, some phrase writer made up, so they could tell books.
Okay.
But it definitely needs to be taught.
So tell the history instead of whitewashing it.
Yeah.
I saw a meme of a little black girl being escorted into school by National Guard troops.
And it said if she was old enough to tolerate it, kids, her age, should be able to learn
about it.
I don't know about it.
That's true.
Yeah.
But it's in my heart, people's feelings.
Hmm.
Well, you're supposed to learn from the history, you're bound to repeat it.
So what I'm trying to think back in Prokyl school, I think we've were taught about slavery,
but it seems to me like it was kind of glossed over.
Oh, probably.
Yeah.
I mean, we were taught about it, but it was glossed over.
It was just something that happened, it was, you know, I mean, it wasn't.
And there were some of this, well, a lot of the slave owners were actually very good to
their slaves.
Yeah.
Well, thank you.
Mm-hmm.
They put a roof over their head, but I definitely remember in Prokyl school, the mentioning
that the Bible says, "Slave should obey their masters."
Really?
It literally says that in the Bible.
The Bible says a lot of shit.
So, but no, I think that definitely needs to be taught in schools.
Controversial books.
There's always been controversial books.
Just science alone, Copernicus's book on heavenly objects or something like that.
We propose that the planets went around the sun, controversial, because the Bible says
otherwise.
Yeah.
The holiest of all books.
Yeah.
Now, I can see banning certain books, like there's a book that Timothy McVeigh read that
basically teaches you how to be an anarchist and how to make bombs.
No, the anarchist book, the handbook of an anarchist book, I can see banning that, but schools
are banning books because a character in it has two mommies or two dead, you know, and
it's just in passing.
They banned one book because the author's name was Gay, her name was Gay, so they banned
the book.
Wow.
Well, it kills me, the right says it because protecting children, oh, thinking of the children.
Thinking of the children, but it's, they say that the left is, they get their panties
in a crunch about everything and blah, blah, blah, and it's them that are doing this.
It's, you know, me the ones that are getting so upset about non-issues, and it's, well, I
remember in Prokyl school, we had a library, and of course, they didn't read all the books
in the library.
Certainly, not the science fiction books, and there were subjects in those books, I mean,
Arthur Clarke and Isaac Asimov, they, they talked about adult subjects in those books.
Okay.
And if they had known what was in those books, they wouldn't have let me read them.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And it seems to me like if you, if they had a list of banned books, then that would make
me want to read them even more.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And the controversy over, yeah, because it's far more interesting.
What's the big deal, why is it being banned?
So government funding of public and school libraries.
Where's the controversy?
Yeah, exactly.
That's a non-issue to me.
It just seems like a simple way for a politician to check a box saying, you know, oh, I opposed
immorality by closing down this library, then I'm looking at it.
Yeah.
Okay.
About national progressive movements such as Black Lives Matter.
We need them.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I mean, I think where we would be if all of the people who protested during the AIDS pandemic
had just rolled over and died instead.
Oh, do you think there'd be a cure for it or a treatment's word right now?
No.
I think it would have taken much, much longer.
No.
And the idea of people who have the illness having a say in the science is just unheard up
before then.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I think, I think that's, I think they're good without a doubt.
Yeah.
Okay.
Firearms, safety, legislation, all for it.
I remember when I was in Boy Scouts, we had to take, I don't think it was a, it was exactly
a firearms class.
It was like a hunter safety class, okay, which is mostly about firearms.
And, you know, even though I've never bought a gun, never owned a gun, it was probably good
for me to learn it.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And if you're going to be around them at all, I think you need to take it.
Someday I may have to pick up a gun and put it someplace else, and I know how to safely
do that.
Exactly.
But yeah, there should be, and then people get upset about that.
You're impeding my rights.
No, we're just making sure that you don't shoot your f***ing face off.
That's, you know what I mean.
You have to pass the test to drive a car.
Yeah.
Exactly.
But it's an inconvenience.
Well, it's going to be an inconvenience when your kid kills himself, though, by accident because
you don't know how to store a gun properly.
So, bilingual education programs.
I think that's a good idea.
I don't think it'll happen.
I think people are inherently lazy.
Already happens.
You already have that.
I know, but I mean, make it, let me go, come.
But I guess I would want people to utilize the tools that they heard that are out there for
them more often.
But I'm guilty of this deal, I mean, but I think it would be good for people to be bilingual.
Okay.
That's not the point of that issue at all.
Okay.
In the United States, everyone is guaranteed an education.
Okay.
And if you don't speak the language of the teacher, you're not going to get an education.
Okay.
So, the schools are mandated to provide education in a language that they can understand.
Okay.
So, what's wrong with that?
There's people who say we need to be in English only countries.
You should not speak anything in English.
We don't have a national language.
They think that there ought to be.
They think of a lot of wrong things, so that's not an issue to me.
I mean, get a grip.
It's the same people like you're in our country, you don't like to get toe out.
This is a melting pot.
You know?
So.
Well, think of it a little bit more expanded.
There's a deaf child who can't hear, they have to provide a teacher who can teach inside
a language so that child can learn.
Yeah.
That's no different than providing a Spanish-speaking teacher.
Yeah.
So.
You just have to look at it in a different life.
Yeah, I'm different, yeah.
Free public higher education and suspension of student debt.
Hmm?
I'll let you go on this one first.
I don't know why free education has to stop at high school.
Hmm.
I mean, if people want to be better educated, that's only going to be good for society.
Hmm.
Well, and it's not free, it's your tax dollars pay for.
True.
Yeah.
So, I mean, yeah, it's just make society better, so I think it's a good thing.
For instance, you and I will never have any children.
Hmm.
Yeah, we pay taxes and go to the schools.
For the betterment of society.
And I'm all for it because I don't want a bunch of uneducated kids running around.
Hmm.
Even though the generation drives us crazy right now.
And how about the suspension of student debt?
I don't know what to think about that.
I mean, my thing is that a lot of people signed up for debt and knowing that they would have
it.
Yeah.
Well, my thing is, if we could do that, if we could give passes to these billionaires on
their taxes, we can't give them to the people who are poor who can't survive paying their
student loans off, but we're willing to go to passes, you know, people who have three
private jets and come up in all around the world.
We're going to give them a million dollar a billion dollar breaks or when a bank is too
big to fail.
Yeah.
So, we can give the small man a break, you know, so I know that will probably rough off
your feathers, but it's good, it's my show.
Married equality.
All for it.
Do you know what that means?
Yeah.
So, we can have the same rights as anybody else.
Hmm.
So?
I'm fond of saying, "I don't want gay marriage, I want the same marriage."
Oh, I can say that.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So, it's not we're taking anything away, we're not getting anything more.
I just want to share what they have.
Hmm.
So, non-binary conceptualizations of gender.
Do you know what does it mean?
Uh, isn't it like today, then, is she?
Well, quick lesson on gender.
Gender and sex are different things.
Yes.
You know that.
Sex is, with your biologically male or female, gender is how you express yourself.
Okay.
If you always wear pants only, your gender is male, but we don't have just male and female
in regards to gender.
Okay.
Even sex, in some cases, they're people who, it's indeterminate whether they're male or female.
So, it's a new concept, but in a word, it's something that people are, the mainstream
public is having to deal with and new things make people uncomfortable and politicians
get votes on expressing that they don't want their people to be uncomfortable.
Yeah.
I don't have a problem with it.
How does it affect my life if someone says that they're, if they're born a male, but then
it doesn't affect your life, but it's certainly, but your behaviors can certainly affect
their.
Exactly, and that's a shame.
So, pronouns still getting used to it.
I think everybody does.
My doctor said he had trouble with that.
Yeah.
Things evolve.
Words that you would never hear on TV, you hear all the time now.
And people will only be uncomfortable with it for a while until they use it enough to
whether they're not uncomfortable.
And that's what a lot of trans people, that they just want people to try, because a woman
that I work with, or she has a son, which trans, and they just want people to try, try to
understand, try, you know what I mean, learn, because I thought I was like, I'm terrible
with my pronouns.
But you're willing to try and learn.
That's all that matters.
You know what I mean?
She was there with him when we went from March to the pre-legged, didn't you remember that?
So yeah, and what does it hurt?
And I try to go out of my way when emails go back and forth at work.
There's constantly new people coming along, and I can't tell by the name, you know,
it's Robin of a male or a female or something else.
So I try to go out of my way to word emails in such a way that it doesn't matter.
And I've had one person call me out of it, like, why did you word that so strangely?
And I said, because I don't know if Robin is a male or female.
But I will sometimes, I will type S/H-E, when I don't know if I should say he or she.
Okay.
Yeah.
You can always be safe here, they or them.
That'd be the same stuff.
It's not that hard to rearrange your grammar to talk about somebody in a general sense just
to where they doesn't sound wrong.
Such a separation of shirts and state.
We've always had it.
I think we always should.
Yes, we should.
There are so many people that say they already think we have a Christian nation.
Oh, sorry.
They think we should have chaplains in schools.
That's ridiculous.
It should be established fact.
I mean, people should know this.
But it's not any more.
Well, I think that when, I mean, was it in Texas or Florida where they said they were going
to have chaplains in schools?
I'm not sure.
Probably Texas.
Could have been both.
Could have been both, yeah.
They sure got a big surprise when the Church of Satan says they wanted to have their chaplains
in the schools.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
All of a sudden they go, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, yes, religion, but, but,
not their religion.
Not their religion, nope.
Okay.
Religious exemptions to laws.
I'm afraid it's going to pass.
I mean, the Supreme Court is keep, keeps making decisions along those lines.
Yep.
And where does it end when somebody says according to my deeply held religious beliefs, black
people should all be dead.
How can the government support that?
You could use religion to justify anything and people have.
Yeah, who presides, what we're going to end up with the Spanish Inquisition again.
Yeah.
Okay.
Christian nationalism and white supremacy.
Not good things.
Not at all.
At all.
It's strange how one kind of goes with the other, oh yeah, oftentimes.
But there are some good people there.
Some very good people.
Some very good people there, more, uh, yeah, they go hand in hand, in my opinion.
I, I don't know.
I think the white supremacy is probably a little bit more extreme than the Christians.
Yeah, but it's like, uh, they're based on hate and Christianity is based on love.
Real Christianity.
Not what we have more to say, well, not what we have now, the truth.
Yeah.
So, um, I mean, I'm afraid Christian nationalism is hate the way we have it now.
Yeah.
So at least the loudest ones are, yeah, not all of them.
So I'm sure there's some very fine Christian people.
Oh, there's probably the majority of them are.
It's just, it's a few of bad apples make bad for everybody.
So everyone calm down and listen and get ready to get on their keyboard and start blowing
me up consumer protections.
Um, I think we're getting away from it.
You think so?
Yeah.
How so Elon Musk is an example them.
He's like a spoiled little rich kid.
He's like a kid in the neighborhood when he gets mad, he's going to take his ball and go.
Need to get back to more consumer protection, I think.
Well, I don't know.
The system we have works fairly well and you, I keep seeing cases, you know, where a company
or an industry is fined billions of dollars because they, you know, they didn't make their
brakes right or something.
So, um, I don't think we need to lessen that any, we, we need to keep the system we have.
No, I agree with that.
Labor unions and collective bargaining.
When unions are done right, they're great, but sometimes they're not.
Well, as we said earlier, people can gain the system and there will always be people who
try to do that.
So, I guess that's all we're really saying about that one, really, kind of nails that one
on the head.
A guaranteed federal minimum living wage.
I think it's a living wage and, I don't know, being federal living wage is different from
state to state.
Yeah, but it should be a living wage.
And, um, they keep trying to enact that and then they just keep pushing it down the, could
you come down the road?
Down the calendar.
So, um, yeah, then it needs to come around.
I think right now, people are complaining about prices at the grocery store and blaming
it on lower, better wages and it's been proven that the biggest names in the food industry
have increased their prices like 6,000%.
So, it's not paying your backboy more money, it's the greedy.
I know that the corporation is selling the food.
What?
You have the executive to bring in bracket bonuses, so yeah, I don't want to hear that garbage.
Workers' rights, it all depends on the industry.
Yeah.
I don't have any complaints about my company, but you definitely, I mean, they have been told
that they need to keep good people, they need to get health insurance and they just refuse
it.
And they refuse to do it.
Well, that is a lot to do with the owners and the investors in the company.
So, that's why I say it's different from company to company.
Yeah.
I did find out that we do actually have paid all days off now, so we'll talk about that
later.
But, yeah, we have--
You probably have to work at least 40 hours to get one.
I don't get it, but we get Thanksgiving Christmas one more day for the July Labor Day.
And I can't think, I can't help but think that they didn't come to that conclusion on their
own.
There was some probably labor board somewhere that helped them decide that.
Kind of a little nudge-nudge-wing.
Yeah.
Should have been done a long time ago.
So, regulations in unfettered capitalism, I think that there's going to be people who say,
"Oh, we already have enough of that."
Yeah.
But there's new industry coming along all the time.
And the regulations never keep up.
No.
Kind of like doors getting blown off of--
Hmm.
"Athority of the Federal Government over the States."
Hmm.
Isn't that, but this country's kind of based around?
We don't have that.
That's right.
It's each individual state and the federal government just kind of overlooks the season.
The most the federal government can do is say we are going to limit the money we give
you if you don't follow these rules.
Okay.
So, the highway system is an excellent example of that.
Every state can set their own speed limits, but the federal government says if you don't
limit it to like 55 or 60 that you're not going to get any federal highway money.
Yeah.
Well, and then they control it too.
It's like--I think they did that Louisiana where they can do the enforce, like, the drinking
age where, like, I think this was a long time ago, I think, where Louisiana is like saying you
can be 18 to drink and the federal government said, "Okay, we're not going to give you any
more money on your highways."
So, the highways went to shit and then Louisiana was like, "Okay, you have to be 21.
You know, we do need this kickback, so."
So people are definitely going to bring up abortion when you talk about state rights.
I remember every state ought to be able to have their own rules, but I'll bet if somebody
tried to pass a nationwide abortion ban that you'd have Christians lining up in droves
to write their congressman over that.
Yeah.
We're going to doubt.
Engaging in world affairs.
What do you think?
Do you think we should say out of it or get involved?
After our country was founded, we've done that.
Yeah.
Why stop now?
The tariffs and regulations and I suppose this particular one is in reference to Ukraine.
Ukraine or...
Ukraine?
Israel.
Mm-hmm.
So, I mean, can we stop being the world, please?
It hasn't always been exactly world-police, but sort of like encouraging our form of government.
Yeah, but some of it thinks this, you know, we're on the two steps of democracy.
Mm-hmm.
Well, and it's not always our way of government either.
We supported Iran, the shot of Iran for a long time just because they had all the oil.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Very complex issues.
Yeah.
But we're not going to solve it.
We're not going to solve it in two minutes.
Two minutes on a podcast.
Mm-hmm.
Authoritarian dictators.
Yeah.
We know that the previous president has said he wants to be one.
Yep.
And people still want to vote him in office.
And shaking my head.
Um.
No good can come from that.
I can see why some people were in favor of it because when you give people a choice, they
can choose wrong.
Yeah.
Um.
Yeah, but once you get an authority dictator, you have no choice any longer.
Mm-hmm.
So, knocking your freedom out to the world.
Mm-hmm.
I don't think people realize that.
So.
All right.
Well, do you know what a dictator is?
A dictator likes potatoes when you cross a penis and a potato.
I knew you were going to come up with something like that.
Aid to Ukraine.
I think we should still keep it.
I think if Putin actually takes over Ukraine, it's just going to be further.
It is.
Mm-hmm.
I think it's like a twist that move.
And um, I think it's a little bit telling that um, we're supporting white people in defense
of their country.
Mm-hmm.
And we don't do very good job of doing that for Brown and black people.
Yeah.
Limits on fossil fuel emissions.
Um, I think it's good, definitely good.
Um, they need to come up with a better, I mean, they're making ways with better power and
stuff like that.
Don't you think?
Mm-hmm.
It's getting better, but I think they still need to make it better, um, even though a lot of
electricity is generated by coal.
Yeah.
But I'm trying, I'm thinking like, like cars and stuff like that.
Mm-hmm.
But you charge that car from electricity, which is made from coal.
Yeah.
So, um, probably not a simple answer.
No.
None of these are really simple answers, most of these.
And um, we can control our own emissions, you know, we could pass laws, even though they
keep pushing those down the calendar too.
Mm-hmm.
Um, we can't make other countries do it.
No.
China's going to be the worst.
Oh, yeah.
And I mean, it needs to be a global response, it just can't be one country.
And it's really the first thing that humans have done that impacts the entire planet.
Mm-hmm.
They have, think of, if all that money had been spent on something good, like stopping
hunger.
Mm-hmm.
Or malaria.
Yeah.
Or any number of things.
Sorry, I keep yawning.
You want to stop.
Um, we can go from a little bit longer.
Fire arm regulations.
Uh, definitely needs them.
I think they need to be tighter.
Um, I think, uh, I don't think any, uh, non-monforcement or military needs to have a semi-automatic
weapon.
Like a K-47.
I don't think ARs should be available to anybody.
Even as weapons of war, how necessary, aren't they?
Yeah.
And they're killing machines.
That's all they are.
Uh, I don't necessarily have a problem with a pistol or a rifle or shotgun, but there's
no reason for an average citizen to have an AR.
There's absolutely no reason.
And where do you stop if you say, oh, I need to be able to shoot a thousand rounds
a minute.
What if somebody else needs a cannon?
Yeah.
Exactly.
And in a whole way, she'll argument as ridiculous, um, is that that argument has been blown
out the window for years and years and years.
If our government wanted to take over, there's, it doesn't matter if every man, woman and
child can, they can't actually have a gun right now.
Had a gun would be able to fight to government back.
There's just, they're technically, technically logically superior and happen for years and
years and years and years and years.
There's just comedians that do a skit about that about, I mean, it's a spun, oh, I just
wiped out 250 people.
Good luck with you, there's a little, you know, so, but yeah, there needs to be regulations.
And then, you know, there's a whole, well, I need to have it since the bad guys have it.
No, you don't.
So, well, yeah, I, I could go on and on.
Yeah, we probably could.
Black and brown immigrants, that's a, that's very well put statement right there, and it's
notice it doesn't say white people, because it'd be a completely different issue if it's
a white people that's sad, that's what it is, a sad, it's, it's, it's underhanded racism right
down, racism, that you could replace that with racism and, yeah, say the same thing, because
if it was all white people coming over, you wouldn't have to, yeah, you don't have anybody
one of a wall between us and Canada, yeah, police reform and accountability.
In theory, we have that in practice, no, we don't.
And this seems to me, it's something that it's cyclical, it comes around every 10 to 15
years, something.
The bad guys get ahead, so the cops think that they have to be as bad as the bad guys, and,
and then there's a great big reform and settlement, and, yeah, so, public safety net programs.
What do you think?
As I said earlier, I think the best judgment of society is how they treat those who have
the least.
Yeah, exactly.
Then, he put it the best.
Reduction and prescription truck phrases.
I don't want, um, farm, prescription drug companies to say, well, we're just not gonna make
any new drugs, because we're not making enough money.
But, you know, when you have a guy who bought an AIDS medicine and raised the price 6,000
percent, yeah, I mean, that's proof right there that something's wrong, yeah, yeah, yeah,
there needs to be some sort of limit, or it's kind of like somebody has all the oxygen
in the world, and they said, oh, well, if you want oxygen, you're going to have to pay 6,000
percent more to get that oxygen in them.
Yeah.
So, there should be definitely some regulations, overductions, I mean, and regulations.
Voting rights and engineering, do you know what that is?
Yes.
I know what that is.
What is it?
It's pretty much where you're setting it up so you can win head and layman's turn, isn't it?
It means drawing congressional boundaries in such ways that it makes it easier for you to
win.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So, they need to figure a way out to solve that and get rid of it.
Google came out with a program for redrawing maps, congressional maps, that would be fair,
and none of the politicians on either side want Google to have any control over their boundaries.
So, because it's a big bad software companies, you know, they don't want anything to do with
it.
And they don't have any control over it.
They can't, there's too much power, so they don't want to give up their own power to
somebody else.
Of course not.
Trust in the electorates and make informed decisions.
Then that we don't have, we haven't had it all the wrong time, so that's pretty sad, but
it comes down to a local level.
We need to get people need to get out their vote and get their voices heard.
Okay.
I keep here.
All my life I've heard, get out and vote.
I don't think you should just get out and vote if you're going to go and vote Republican
on everything.
No, you're voting.
You know what the issues are.
Know how they affect you and how they affect society and vote for all party lines.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
I agree with you.
And it's just saying getting up there and vote is an easier way of, it is a shortcut to
answer.
So, I think in our state, they might as well have two boxes, one that says vote for Republican
on everything and another one is a vote Democrat on everything.
Yeah.
Equitable and fair tax policies.
That's funny.
Yes, we need that.
I mean, look, I think Donald Trump didn't pay taxes one year, but yet we did.
How's that fair?
And most of the tax code that we have, the bizarre system of deductions and balances and
whatever, those were all done by lobbying groups, especially to try to give their industry
and advantage.
Yeah.
Yeah, especially on just groups like home loans, you know, you can deduct all that money.
It's just another way for rich people to avoid taxes.
Yeah.
No poor person ever came up with the idea of reducing taxes by mortgage payments.
You know, narrowing the mass of income in both gaps, obviously over that, how, there's
no way, there's just no way that it can happen, but there are some companies that have rules
that say the highest paid employee cannot make something more like more than 50 times the
lowest paid employee, which is a good start.
Good start.
And so if, you know, the CEO wants to game self-arrays, he's going to have to give all the other
people raises too.
It's a good idea.
And I don't know.
We could probably make a law that all corporations have to do that and imagine they outcry that
would have.
Oh, you'd have a bunch of rich white people getting pissed off.
So, but yeah, it's, uh, it's start, like you said, supporting social security, Medicare and
Medicaid.
All for it, same as a security won't be around.
It's also a shame that it's administered by the states.
I believe in our state, they said something like last year, uh, only two people who applied
for disability got it.
Really?
All the rest of them had to hire a lawyer to get it.
That's what I've heard.
Yeah.
I got denied, so, um, but that's, I've heard that on the McLean.
Well, for a long time, they were giving it to anybody and anybody and anybody.
Years ago.
Maybe I'd never heard that.
Oh, yeah.
Years ago, the people were getting disability left and right and then they said, well, that's
enough.
We're not going to do it.
So they stopped giving it to anybody.
I don't know.
Only the ones who can afford a lawyer can get it.
Yeah.
Well, now those aren't the people who need it, you know, not at all.
Well, now that the lawyers don't do a pro bono, but they do it.
They get 30% after you get your judgment.
Hmm.
They do it.
Not quote, unquote, free, but regulations on business and industry.
Um, I think we've always had that.
Yeah.
Um, at least since, um, the, the Rico laws and, um, um, what's, what's the word I'm trying
to think of, uh, the monopoly, um, the, uh, the, uh, the laws that prevent companies from
getting too big.
Does the monopoly laws, um, I think there's a name for it.
Okay.
Um, when, when a particular system gets too big, it's not good for society.
Yeah.
Because, um, on their own, because they'll just do the right thing.
Yeah.
It doesn't leave other options.
There's no way to regulate it or put it, because there's no checks and balances.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I think that every time we pay our internet bill, it's like, uh, yeah, I'll guess I'll go
to the other internet company.
There is none.
Yeah.
Um, prosecution of capital insurrectionists, how'd that one get on this list?
I think they should all be prosecuted, I think they are.
Yeah.
To the fullest extent, um, it probably should be a little bit more public than it is because
I think people should learn by example, if you try to do that, you're, you're going
to pay.
They basically took a shit, um, a citadel of democracy when they did that.
So if prosecutors are the fullest, I think a lot of them are getting off too easy.
Uh, it was a bunch of little crybabies that didn't get their way.
Mm-hmm.
And then they decided to attack, it was just treasonous effect.
And that, they compare themselves to the Boston Tea Party.
No.
There isn't no comparison.
No, no.
It's, they're, they're delusional.
They're absolutely delusional people.
And then the idiots at Korki Skoll Room hostages, oh God, let's, let's move on.
You want to get this done, don't you?
Well, this has been a very long list there.
Accountability.
People should be held accountable, anything?
Should be, but they're not.
Doesn't happen.
No.
I mean, what else do we have to say?
The only people who are held accountable are the ones who can't afford to get off.
Yeah, we're the higher people to get them off them.
So, the notion of woke, I, it's a made-up controversy.
Yeah.
I think some people decided to take like, like the area nation and reduce it down to something
that common people could understand and make a big deal out of it.
Yeah.
It's a good way of putting it.
I guess we move on then.
No, I mean, I don't, I, I mean, I don't know what else to say, I mean, it's, I mean, it's,
I mean, it's a good point.
People are basically complaining that they have to think of other people first, and they
don't want to do that.
And, because it's all, it's all me, me, me, me, me, exciting, it's been like that for years.
It's whatever you've done for me lightly.
So, and I don't say changing, hopefully it will.
But depending on really what happens in the near future.
I kind of remember when the Twin Towers came down for a while.
People were helpful for a while too.
I mean, it wasn't quite a while.
Quite a while.
It was, it was a United Nations, it was like we're in this together, but that's gone astray.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it made a breaking point when we all know who got elected.
Yeah.
I really think this country took a step back.
And the bar wasn't just lowered one notch, it was lowered down to the ground.
To the ground, yeah.
And people still want to put that back in office.
And people think, well, if the president can get away with being an ass, then I guess I can
to you.
Exactly.
It gave them a free pass to do whatever they wanted to do, and that's sad.
So, yeah, we've talked about that.
The Constitution of the United States of America.
Probably the most influential document ever made in Praka, I mean.
I think it's interesting when a government official is sworn into office or a soldier that
goes into the military, they swear to protect the Constitution, not the President, not
the government, not the Constitution.
That's the way it should be.
So, and that's what pisses me off about that ass-hide that it was in the office before
it.
No, he's trying to get people released of the insurgents.
They attacked our Constitution.
You know what I mean, they, and you're going to let them go, I mean, he's sworn out to protect
the Constitution of the United States of America.
But he doesn't remember that, he doesn't remember shit, he doesn't know.
He's a buffoon, so democracy.
It's a great idea, but I wish we had it.
We don't have a democracy, we have a republic.
We do.
And we are very well, and what we have left of a democracy, we're in the bounds, we're
about to lose it.
Seriously, I mean, where about to lose it?
The origins of democracy was the Roman Empire, where all citizens had a vote.
But back then, the definition of a citizen was a lot, never where it is now.
Oh yeah, I think it's landowners or, well, if you were a slave, you weren't a citizen, you
couldn't vote.
And they wanted to do that here, they only wanted to consider them three-fifths of a person.
Yeah, that's the same thing with women.
So, yep.
What do all these have in common?
They're ton, I don't know, but these were all extracted from things that Trump supporters
believe in.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
It's interesting.
So, they believe in all of this stuff?
Well, they either believe in it or they believe it should be denied.
Okay.
Because they don't believe a lot of this stuff, so, okay.
So, these are all like flashpoints that Trump will, okay.
Okay.
So, it's not as black and white as people want to make it.
Okay.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
So, sorry, we had to spend so much time getting to that point.
Yeah.
Come.
Why do you ever joke this week, because we could use one?
You don't like it when we have negative topics.
No, I don't.
I'd like to do this for fun, not for, hmm, to bring things out.
I'd like to get our viewpoints down for posterity.
What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don't know.
What is it?
I don't know and I don't care.
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