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We're going to talk about Queer Politics.
Whoopee.
Now, I'm looking forward to this episode.
I'm excited.
Sure.
Yeah.
I am.
You usually don't like hard topics.
No, but I'm excited about the Democratic ticket.
So, okay, voting for presidential candidate.
We're going to do that, right?
Of course.
We're going to vote.
Yeah, that's what our civic duty is.
I'm all about it.
Are you going to vote for somebody?
Mm-hmm, Trump.
No, I'm not voting for Trump.
Yeah, so I'm going to vote definitely.
I'm going to vote for Harris.
It's one of the few times that I get to vote for somebody,
and I vote against somebody even worse.
I'm excited for her.
I'm excited for the voice president.
I'm excited to be honest with you.
I don't think I was one of the people who really thought that he should back out.
I thought that would divide Democrats a whole lot.
But since he did, it does seem to have reinvigorated Democrats.
It's in June, June 8th, the whole Democratic party.
I think a lot of people think that they get to vote for somebody instead of voting against somebody.
Exactly.
Yeah, I think the people were really concerned about Biden running again for another four years.
And all these papers who kept saying Biden is too old and he's diminished.
They're not saying that about Trump now that he's still in the race.
No, of course not. There's a bias.
I guess that's not controversial.
But he doesn't buy clicks. But if you see any interviews with Trump recently, he looks worse and worse.
He did something on the TV this morning.
Where he came out of hiding because he's been in hiding pretty much for a while now.
But he held a rally.
He's talking and he's talking about Tim Walls.
And he's for the evil trans people in blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he just doesn't make any sense.
And he never did in my opinion anyways.
So there are a lot of doctors who's gotten together to talk about Trump.
And they believe that he has dementia.
Just like most of their supporters.
That he's not lying about the things that he's saying because he actually believes these stupid things.
I can believe that because he's a showrunner's misogynistic pig.
But how do you really feel?
You know, I hate him.
I hated him before he became president of the United States.
So I never liked him from when he did the people who I grew up and lived.
So he just come back. He's always been a scumbag. And he's just told this nation is believing that he's actually decent human being and those people who vote for him.
I have no sympathy for what.
It does seem to be a big giant grift.
It's a cult.
And I just really hope that he doesn't win.
And if people get upset that we're talking about politics then you can start listening to another podcast because it's important.
And I'll say that. I'll say that. We do this for our enjoyment.
We're just happy that people listen to us.
Yeah, we're not getting any money from Harris.
No, not at all. Just how we feel.
So Kamala Harris has actually gotten the nominations.
They held all of those meetings online, probably on Zoom.
And she has enough nominations to another electoral vote.
Yeah, that's good. They don't actually have to go through with the convention now, but I mentioned they probably will for all the pomp and circumstance.
Oh, well, they've been four years getting ready for it.
They're saying that Taylor Swift is going to perform with the DNC and the Republicans are pissed about that because they're afraid of the Swiftie Army coming out and supporting.
She's going to be there. What a shame. Yeah, they're pissed that these young Swifties are going to come out and vote for the DNC for Democratic Party.
Well, find a base.
Yeah, they probably needed that more when Biden was the nominees and when Harris is the nominee.
Because I could see young people not wanting to vote for some old white man.
And I think I think really that Gen Z and millennials are going to vote for Harris.
So I could see the Senate Biden. I think they're excited about coming to Harris.
It was Joe Biden. They're not really voting for less or two evils in their opinion.
So you want to move along?
Okay. So Harris was California's attorney general when she declined to defend public proposition eight.
Proposition eight, as we just discussed before the podcast, was California's attempt to ban gay marriage.
It was a referendum and I don't know how they got enough votes in California for that, but somehow they did.
And Harris was attorney general at the time. And there was, of course, there a lawsuit to not let that go through.
And she refused to defend it.
Okay. Good. That was, that was, but when, when was that about 20 years ago?
Yeah, come, come, go. Good. So she's always been an ally.
Yes. Good. Good. See, I knew I'd like to.
For a reason.
Well, and there is one other pro gay thing that she did when the president of Ghana visited.
She was on stage with him and a reporter asked about homosexuals in Africa.
And she standing right there in front of him said, I am opposed to this five year penalty for homosexual acts, because these are just like anybody else.
And she stood right in front of him and said that to the president of Ghana.
Yeah. Well, that's awesome.
I mean, it could have, she could have just said a bunch of political double speak and, you know, not offended him or anything.
But she stood, stood firm right good here.
And the guy was probably surprised that even a female was there talking to her.
Yeah. So, yeah, there's a lot of countries over in Africa that are barbaric towards gay rights, towards gay people.
And quite even more enlightened countries like Egypt.
Yeah. What is it like? I think some of them will kill you.
Yeah, I think that's a death penalty.
Which is so sad.
And I, it's been a while since I've looked at the map, but I think it's about split even now with countries that prosecute homosexuality and those that don't.
Oh, really?
The main problem with, with Ghana's was they had no definition of homosexuality.
So, you could be accused of homosexuality just for kissing somebody or holding hands.
That's crazy.
Once again, it shows how well we have it here in the United States.
I guess we do have to keep fighting for it.
Oh, no. No, I agree completely.
Those were really the only two pro gay things I could find about her.
We just all assume that she's on our side.
But there haven't been a whole lot of official acts or whatever.
Maybe it's just circumstance that she didn't have an opportunity to.
I don't know, but it does seem odd that she's presumed to be pro gay
without a whole lot of perfect evidence.
Yeah.
And I don't think it's wrong.
I don't think it's untrue.
I don't know.
Maybe she just hadn't had a chance to prove herself.
Yeah.
Well, I'm happy she's there.
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg was discussed as a workshop possibility for Vice President.
Do you sound like you read that?
Do you want me read it again?
No.
Yeah, until the Vice Presidential candidate was named, Pete Buttigieg just kept coming up.
And I think it's because everybody knows who he is.
There were like six potential candidates.
And out of those, that was the only one that I recognized about you.
I didn't know any of the others.
No, neither did I.
I mean, after reading about the merger, their names came up.
Yeah, no name recognition right away.
I hope he runs for president next time.
I need to.
I really do.
I mean, if we can get a black woman president, surely we can get a gay man president.
Hopefully.
Yeah.
I could see a bunch of racist people out there going, well, at least he's white.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You're definitely right on that damn damn bug.
Yeah.
No, I like Mayor Pete.
I liked the money ran before.
People obviously didn't win.
It didn't beat Biden.
But when he ran, I liked a lot of things that he said.
And I like watching him now.
I mean, he says he's the president of the transportation secretary.
But he's ever seen some interviews when he goes.
He is smart.
And he annihilates the right.
He annihilates them.
And then, you know, he's talking about JD Vans and JD Vans.
And, you know, I was overseas.
I was more in Pete's like, yeah, so it was a high big deal.
You know what I mean?
And just tears people apart.
He's smart.
And he's quick with it.
He's quick with his tone.
And he doesn't put up with shit.
And his husband, Chastain, he is a smart one too.
I think he's a school teacher.
He's a school teacher.
Yeah.
He's smart.
He stopped.
But he wrote a children's book.
He was on some daytime talk show.
But yeah, he's pretty.
I hope we have that to look forward to another four years.
Yeah.
That would be very nice.
And who knows?
Maybe Trump will run again.
He seems like a bad penny.
He just can't get rid of.
I would just wish he would crawl under that rock that he came up from.
I mean, hopefully that rock gets bigger and just crush it.
Okay.
So I'm trying to be a balanced, reasonable person.
And you know, I don't like the man.
So I just wish he would go away just the way we could be more different.
Yeah.
He came to be a footnote in history for all my, for what I care.
I mean, I think he's a black eye on the American.
He's a good country as a whole.
I think people will really look back in history.
People are going to be embarrassed.
Oh.
Well, we embarrass now.
But I mean, even the people who vote for me are being embarrassed.
So, yeah.
But I mean, that's my opinion.
And it's worth it's way in saying so.
So, governor, governor walls.
What is his first name again?
Tim.
Has been a steadfast alley and advocate for the queer community.
I did not know this before.
I knew some of this.
I didn't know really any of the potential candidates.
Yeah.
I knew a little bit about him, but not much.
Nothing.
I couldn't write a report about him.
I knew that he was an ally.
But yeah, apparently, when he was governor, he signed a ban on conversion therapy into law.
And conversion therapy is when they tried to make people straight again.
Make them cis.
And it is kind of a cultish type thing.
Oh.
It's not based on science at all.
No, no.
And I think here in Kansas, there is a huge industry of a gay conversion people.
I've met several people at bars who were sent to Kansas to be turned straight.
And it didn't work.
Obviously.
No.
We can chuckle about it, but it's really sad.
Also, he supported trans-affirming care by the way, autonomy and reproductive freedom.
You know what those words mean?
Yes.
Come on.
So he's pro trans.
Which is good.
And reproductive freedom.
Which is sort of, I guess you could still consider them queer people because it's a sexual minority.
No, they're part of the alphabet mafia.
So when he was a representative, congressional representative, he made a four-speech supporting the repeal of Doug Ast hotel.
He not only supported it, but actually went on record in the congressional record.
He put his money where it's mouth was.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
I wish I had seen that.
I bet it's probably on C-SPAN.
Yeah.
If they keep archives.
Yep.
And then we have...
He helped the passage of the Matthew Shepard Hacorns Prevention Act.
Do you remember Matthew Shepard?
Mm-hmm.
Poor guy.
He did that in Wyoming.
Yeah, hung up on him.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's supposed to him.
I didn't know.
He survived for a few days in the hospital.
They found him alive.
He was barely alive, but he lived on for a few days and then he finally passed.
I do remember somebody said that the only part of his body that wasn't bloody was his face.
And it was because he had cried so much that he had washed his blood.
Yeah.
That's so sad.
Yeah.
He's not talking about that.
In his own state, he signed legislation that stops libraries in a state from removing books.
And a book banning, I think, is the first step towards facism.
I mean, it's the first thing that the Nazis did.
And look at Florida.
I'm just on a roll.
Sorry.
Yeah.
It's true though.
Many times something like that happens.
Normally, it's like fascist 101.
You know, it's such a playbook.
Go after the thoughts and ideas.
And then Walls was a high school teacher in coach.
You know what he coached?
Football.
Come on now.
Of course, I know that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, let's talk about that.
We'll skip those two and then we'll come back to them.
Because you.
Yeah.
Do you see what I was like?
Because while he was a teacher at my Canada West High School in the 1990s, Walls was advised to school first gauge straight lines.
Did you know that?
Yeah.
One of the case students came to him and asked him, they needed support from someone in the staff.
Yeah.
I think every school club has to have a teacher advisor.
And the kids thought it would be a good idea to get the football coach to do that.
And he thought it was a brilliant idea too.
And that's all we take talk on it, but not saying tiktok's feelings off.
But he actually, a lot of his football players joined the group.
Because apparently this high school, there was a lot of bullying going on to the great, to the case students.
And his kids stepped up.
I'm going to start this case straight lines.
And he backed it.
So he knew that he saw the problem and he wanted to end up in the butt.
Not something typical football coach would do, I don't think.
Yeah.
No, not the football coaches, I remember.
The football coaches, I remember in high school were just kind of verbal aids.
Like a talk that's about it.
That's bad mouthing, the ape's going to feel bad about it.
All right.
When Republicans in Minnesota introduced a bill that would ban transgender athletes from playing sports,
while so that he would veto it.
Apparently that law didn't get, didn't, didn't get through the state legislature.
Not good, but he indicated.
And probably the reason it didn't is because he said, if that comes to me, I'll veto it.
So they knew they would have to get like a three-fourth majority to override that.
They didn't.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Okay.
Now, our Kansas connection.
Kansas governor of our Kelly will share the Democratic Governor's Association to complete the term of walls.
So she's basically going to step in if he wins.
She's going to take his place.
So she'll need both the governor of Minnesota and Kansas and so many.
No, no, no, no.
Okay.
The Democratic Governor's Association is a group of Democratic governors from across the United States that have come together.
And one of their rules is that you can't work for the federal government and be a part of that group.
So our governor is going to take over from him, because he can't be president of the group anymore.
Okay.
And technically, I think he still could, because he hasn't been elected yet.
He's not a federal employee yet.
But I think it's a sign that he feels that he's going to win.
Donald Trump specifically listed Waltz's support for queer people as a reason to support him.
To oppose him.
Despite appointing Waltz to the council of governors when he was president.
Very interesting.
So his mind suddenly changed on this man.
Yeah.
Sometimes always recording stuff.
That's something I wanted to talk about.
Everything that I've heard about him is positive.
You would think somebody would come out with some dirt on him already, but nobody has.
They're trying to give him, because apparently he got a DUI when he was younger.
It happens.
That's some of the dirt I heard on him.
And then a few years back, because he's supported by the NRA, which is rare, because he's an avid hunter.
He's an avid hunter, but he still believes in gun control.
Gun control in background checks.
But apparently when he was giving a speech, he was talking about it.
When he served and he was carrying his weapon of war.
Katie Bench sometimes told him that you never went overseas.
You're never seen war.
And he's like, well, I was still a warrior.
You know what I mean?
He was still trained.
I was still trained.
I still used the weapon of war.
Basically, he basically laughed at him off the stage when he came up, because he was trying to badmouth him and shame him.
And he's like, you know, you can say what you want.
And then they try to call him a Dodger.
Not a draft Dodger, because apparently he filed for Congress.
It's a run for Congress.
And then a month later, his guard got sent overseas.
There's people saying that no, he filled out that form like a day before his unit got stripped over.
So he was trying to avoid going over there, but it was actually like two months beforehand.
He filled those farms out to become actually run.
So the JD Vance once again got laughed off the stage.
So JD Vance just needs to go back and up his couch.
I'd like to see if I spent central debate.
And they've had those before.
Oh, yeah.
And if Vance is smart, he won't agree to that.
Vance thinks he's the cat's meow.
But I would like to see that too.
I want to see the debate between Kamala, Kamala Harrison Trump.
I want to see that.
And then I want to see JD Vance and Walls go at it.
Because I think it's just kind of strengthened the Democratic Party.
I think these people were so intelligent compared to those two buffoons that it just be.
Yeah, as long as that doesn't go against them.
I mean, they just can't demoralize them.
They put you in verbally as you know.
It doesn't kind of seem like Trump thinks he's already lost.
I think he's giving up.
I think he's I think, you know, because maybe his supporters or former supporters have spoken for him.
And you know, he's not getting the donations he was getting before.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You know, hopefully we can only watch my last comment.
If Pete Buttigieg were heterosexual, he'd be Tim Walls.
Yeah.
That's funny, but it's true.
Very true.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I guess we're done.
So what's your favorite joke this week?
If you date someone whose first name is Donald, why should you marry him?
You have a very confused look on your face.
Yeah, you got me.
Someone named Donald.
Karen?
Why should you marry him?
Because of money?
Because every gay guy wants to wake up at the crack of dawn.
God.
Yes, it's a door.
All right.
Oh my God.
Okay, you got me.
You definitely got you on now.
That's talking to honeybone.
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