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This is episode 125 of the Baehr and Curadh podcast.
We're going to ask some what-if questions.
What if gay marriage hadn't been legalized?
I don't know.
It would have a huge impact on our relationship.
I'm pretty sure we'd still be together, even if we weren't compelled to be legally.
Yeah.
But there are, I believe they've estimated, almost 2,000 rights and responsibilities that come automatically with marriage.
If we were to have to hire lawyers for all of those legal documents,
and everything, it would cost us a fortune.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And even with marriage, there's problems.
Just the other day, I got something from the insurance company saying,
we need proof that you are my dependent.
Mm-hmm.
That I have to digitize a copy of our marriage certificate and send it to them.
Certificate.
It seems completely homophobic.
It seems completely homophobic to me.
If your name was Wendy instead of William, they wouldn't be questioning it whatsoever.
Well, I'm not changing my name to Wendy.
But yeah, no, it is.
That's ridiculous.
But I agree with you.
If my name was a female name, it would be a non-issue.
Mm-hmm.
So, there wouldn't be any.
But you're right.
I don't think our life would change.
I don't think it would change really that much.
I mean, I don't see anything changing.
I mean.
It is a little bit easier when you meet a stranger and they look at the two of us and, you know,
they want to know what our relationship is and we say we're married.
They immediately know exactly what that is.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
So, I'm proud to be married to you, too.
Me, too.
So.
I'm proud to be married to me.
You love yourself, don't you?
What if Mike Pence had done what Donald Trump asked him to and certified him as president?
Part of me, part of me don't think, I don't think anything really would happen.
Because it's all ceremonial.
Anyway, isn't it?
When he went in there and read the.
If he certified Trump as president, Trump would be president right now.
I thought it still would have been ceremonial; I thought.
I thought it would have been still on the point.
Because the people, they already ratified the election.
It was all ceremonial.
No, that was the certification process.
And Trump told him to usurp it and declare his.
Him as the president?
Yeah.
Well, yeah, it would have sucked.
I'm afraid that there would be all kinds of lawsuits and everything and it would go to the Supreme Court and they would decide and we know what would happen then.
Yeah.
Well, it's going to be the same thing if he wins.
It's going to be the same thing if he wins this time.
Yeah, they've lined up all kinds of lawsuits already just waiting for the day to happen.
Yeah.
Well, they were talking this morning on the Meet the Press that apparently Kamala Harris or the U.S. government has already had things lined up in case she does win and he doesn't, he tries to do any kind of military coup or anything.
I'm sure Washington's locked up, tries to drum right now.
Oh, yeah.
So, pretty much anything, if he tries anything.
They already have, like, response teams.
And I kind of wonder, she, as vice president, is going to preside over her own victory, I hope.
Yeah.
Has that ever happened before?
Surely it has.
Yeah, I imagine so.
I mean.
I mean, I could see that being a lawsuit right there.
You were the one that certified yourself as president.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's true.
I imagine there's steps to be taken there or there's someone else besides her.
She has already, I don't know what the word, she's published documents saying that she will not do anything but follow the letter of the law exactly.
Good, good.
Don't you think?
I'm glad we didn't need that with Mike Pence.
Somehow, he had the integrity to.
To do it.
The Constitution said it was right.
Yeah.
So, it's good that there's still people in this country that still believe in it.
Mm-hmm.
Politicians.
Probably because he's such a goody-goody Christian and he couldn't imagine doing anything else.
Yeah.
Probably he wasn't wearing his big boy pants that day either.
So, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I just had a thought.
The whole problem with the presidential election.
The whole problem with the presidential election is how complicated the whole process is.
Mm-hmm.
You have people vote and the state has electors who have to certify the vote and vote the way their party declares.
So, it's sort of state by state.
Mm-hmm.
And each state has a different number of electors.
Yeah.
Certain amount of power.
It's the number of senators.
It's the number of senators and representatives combined.
They have to have that many.
Okay.
And typically, it's all or nothing.
They all vote for one party or the other.
So, it's incredibly complicated.
Mm-hmm.
We could solve all of this by changing the law to say simple majority wins.
The popular vote.
Yeah.
Well, there would be no competition then because, I mean, what would come of the last few
presidents would have been different.
Almost all of them.
All of them.
Yeah.
From Al Gore on down.
Well, besides Barack.
Barack Obama.
Mm-hmm.
You know me.
And those seven swing states, they call them, you know, where it makes all the difference.
Mm-hmm.
They have way too much power.
Yeah.
Over the whole thing.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
What if you found out you have an identical twin?
I'd be disappointed.
Would you really?
Yeah.
Why?
Because you didn't get to spend time with them?
No, because I am a unique individual.
There's nobody else in the world like me.
And if I found out there was, it would just be disappointing.
Would you really be upset?
A little, yeah.
Really?
I don't think I'd give a rat's ass if you like.
Okay?
Cool.
There was.
Um, I was looking through the internet and there was, um, like a blog and a guy who looks
just almost exactly like me, except for a mole on his face that was, it's kind of bizarre
to say, how did that guy get my pictures?
But no, those, those were his pictures.
And I remember one time I found a picture of a guy that looked just like you.
Hmm.
He was doing a workout.
Hmm.
You don't remember that?
Mm-mm.
Hmm.
How many times did you masturbate to that picture?
Oh, I still do.
I love you.
Now, that would be a nice thing about having an identical twin, um, I think, if he was
gay, too, because, um, isn't that a fancy that everyone has to have sex with their twin?
No, I've never thought of that.
Mm-hmm.
You'd have sex with yourself?
During the AIDS pandemic, I considered writing a, a story about a guy who could travel in
the past.
Mm-hmm.
But only like a week.
Mm-hmm.
He'd go back a week and he could have sex with himself and it would be completely safe sex
because he was only having sex with himself.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Kind of.
Also, would have to be, you'd have to be the type that you like, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
So, no, I don't, I don't, I'm, yeah, I don't think, uh, I've never, I know people have
had that fantasy before and I'm, I don't, I don't know, I think it'd be weird.
Hmm.
So, yeah, I think it, yeah, I'd be, I don't think it, I just, having an identical twin
thing, I don't think it'd really bother me.
I'd be like, I think it'd be more of a, where have you been?
Such as my whole life, you know, why, why, why are we meeting now?
Mm-hmm.
You know?
If, if, if it's that important to go, if it's not important, crawl back underneath that
rock that you came from.
So, why are you here now, I guess?
I don't know.
So, all right.
What if Joe Biden hadn't dropped out of the presidential election?
Well, I guess we'll find out.
I, at, at the time where they were, when they were asking him to, to bow out, I was trying
not to think about it.
Mm-hmm.
Because I, I, I was hoping that he would just be the lesser of the two evils.
Mm-hmm.
It, it wasn't so much voting for Biden, it was voting against Trump.
Against Trump, yeah.
Well, now we have, you know, a viable alternative.
Mm-hmm.
And I, I hope it turns out to be a landslide.
Yeah.
So do I.
All the polls say it's so close that there might as well not be a poll.
Yeah.
Yeah, but they're all 50-50, aren't they?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Um, I just really hope she wins.
So, you know, because it's, uh, it's like you said, it was, it was more voting against
Trump than for Biden.
Mm-hmm.
So, but I guess we'll find out in less than two weeks.
Mm.
So, okay.
What if you saw my face on a Warner poster?
That would explain so much.
Yeah.
I'm such a crook.
I'm such a villain, aren't I?
Um, if I saw your face on a Warner poster, how much money do they want for you?
I guess I'm not getting it.
What's the reward?
I don't know.
I don't, really?
I mean, first of all, I'd have to find out what, what is he wanted for, really?
Because, yeah, I just can't see you being wanted by the police for anything.
Oh, I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure that one day, um, a news reporter is going to be interviewing my coworkers
and they'll say, he was such a quiet guy.
Yeah.
We had no idea.
It's normally the quiet guy that does it.
So, yeah, I, I know.
I wouldn't do anything.
I'd, I'd probably just ask you about it.
Like, hey, what's this?
I'd go, oh, I have an identical twin.
Yeah.
There you go.
That's not me.
It's my identical twin.
All right.
Fair enough.
I really know where to go after that.
What if the January 6th insurrection had succeeded?
I'm scared to think about it.
It would have ruined the Constitution.
It would have what?
Ruined the Constitution.
You can't ruin.
It would have ruined everything it stood for.
Yeah.
The, the people who participated in the Boston Tea Party
pretty much did the same thing.
Mm-hmm.
They, it was an insurrection against their government.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm sure that a lot of those people feel like it's the same thing.
Mm-hmm.
The history is written by the victors.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
I mean.
I'm pretty sure that would have ended up in,
just being decided by the Supreme Court to.
Yeah.
And it's been so stacked the last few years that
we don't really want anything to go to the Supreme Court.
No, it's scary.
Why would you want it to go there?
I mean, you're not going to, you're not going to lose if it's,
if it's anywhere in between a conservative or left or right issue,
you're going to lose.
It's not four to five anymore.
No.
It's, it's three to six.
Three to six, yeah.
So.
Yeah, there's just no way to win.
So, kind of depressing.
Um, things would be a lot different, I think.
I really think.
We wouldn't be getting ready for this election right now.
It wouldn't be so uncertain.
Well, we wouldn't be having this election right now.
Mm-hmm.
I truly believe that.
If he did get away with what he got, what he tried to get away with on the 6th.
We, we'd had another Hitler.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
He used to say that, you know, we wouldn't be working with Russia to overtake Ukraine.
You know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
You know what I mean?
Uh-huh.
There's, there's countless possibilities.
You know what I mean?
That's what's so scary about all of this.
It's hard to even think about.
Yeah.
Very, very upsetting.
Here's another one that's just scary to think about.
What does it say about how it successfully succeeded?
I think the thing that people would go to immediately is slavery.
They would, uh, most people believe that the succession of the Soviet Union, you know,
the South was about slavery and eventually it was, but in the beginning, um.
It was about states’ rights, not slaves, I'm teasing.
There is no method in the constitution for, uh, a state to succeed.
Oh, okay.
It says that our Republic will be forever more.
Okay.
That, um.
There's just no.
Empty spot?
No coming back.
That, um, a state can't say, well, we don't want to be in with you anymore.
Hmm.
It, it literally says in the constitution that, that, that it's forever.
Okay.
And that was the basis of Lincoln's problem with them was they were trying to do an unconstitutional
thing.
Okay.
By leaving.
Mm-hmm.
That's crazy.
I never knew that.
Now, if, if they had succeeded, um, us here in Kansas, I would probably have succeeded
too.
Um, the, the biggest problem in Kansas was, are they going to be a slave state or not?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, that's what the wars were about.
Mm-hmm.
Um, in fact, we live in a city called Wichita.
Mm-hmm.
And the reason there is a Wichita.
Mm-hmm.
Wichita Falls. It's because of that. It's because the Wichita tribe was afraid that Kansas was going to be a slave state and they left. No, wasn't it the tribe left? Uh-huh. And they went to Wichita Falls, Texas. Yeah, which doesn't seem, maybe Texas didn't exist yet. No, I don't think they did, yeah. But yeah, and I mean, well, wasn't Texas considered part of the South?
I would think it would be, but as I said, maybe Texas didn't exist yet at that time.
Yeah, they might not exist yet at the same point.
Hmm. We're not experts on any of this. We're just...
We're just two guys having fun on a podcast.
Yeah, we're...
So, yeah. Yeah, don't think anything by our word is... Yeah, because it's not. All right.
What if you figured out your entire life has been an elaborate virtual reality?
I'd be pissed. I'd be mad, I think.
I think it would explain a lot.
Why?
It would explain the speed of light.
Oh.
You know, I can see.
No, I don't care if it's a joke.
The speed of light says no object can go faster than the speed of light.
Uh-huh.
So, there's all these stars and galaxies in the universe...
...that are so far away.
Mm-hmm.
They're so far away that there's no physical way that we can ever reach them.
Okay.
That would limit the simulation to a very small area that you could get to.
Okay.
You know, right now it's the Earth and the Moon and some planets.
Mm-hmm.
Whatever.
If the entire universe... If they tried to simulate the entire universe, it would just be too much.
Mm-hmm.
Too much for a simulation to handle.
Oh.
Okay.
That makes sense.
All right.
So, you know, they made a natural limit.
Mm-hmm.
To it, yeah.
Hmm.
It's a good way to look at it.
But I can tell you haven't thought about these things like I have.
No.
I've not.
That's why I sleep at night.
And why I don't.
Mm-hmm.
What if the Manhattan Project failed?
Well, it's known that the Nazis were working on an atom bomb, but I think it's also been determined that they weren't nearly as far along as everybody thought they were.
I think, yeah.
Because that's why we did it, wasn't it, pretty much?
Um...
I mean, it was a race between us and the Nazis, and...
Yeah, the Manhattan Project was huge.
Yeah.
I mean, they practically took up the whole state.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, thousands and thousands of people.
It was in Arizona, right?
Right.
Um...
In New Mexico?
Don't remember.
It's basically the invention of the atom bomb, right?
Yeah.
Um, I remember an interview of a woman who was a calculator.
Um, the mathematicians who, they didn't have computers yet, so the people who sat down and did the math were called calculators.
Most of them were women.
Mm-hmm.
She said...
She said that she got an offer to move to Los Alamos.
Mm-hmm.
And they said, you know, this is your pay, and it was huge, but we can't tell you what it is or what you'll be doing or anything, but you just have to go.
And, um, she went to the public library and got a book on Los Alamos.
Los Alamos.
And back in those days...
days it had a little card in it that you gave to them you signed your name on it and you gave it to
them so they would know that the book that you had the book well all the names of the people who had
previously checked out that book were all gone they had all just disappeared oh really so she
knew there was something going on something that nobody could talk about yeah that's crazy yeah
that's yeah do you even check that book out then because I don't think I would it's interesting
yeah, very interesting um having the atom bomb as awful as it is uh imagine if we had had to
invade Japan take over their government
how awful how Japan many losses there would be yeah thousands and thousands probably more than
the
bombs oh yeah definitely yeah that's the reason we use the bombs on them because they would not
have given up they would not have so that's crazy yeah it took two of them to yeah to get the emperor
to bendy yeah so yeah that's crazy isn't it think about that but yeah things would be a lot more
different I think like that I mean so I mean I’d say it I mean we could literally still be in the
know but I mean there's been 100-year wars so yeah but yeah, I you know you don't want to say
thank god it did happen but yeah, there you go okay what if you didn't turn out to be gay
I God can't imagine it I just can't imagine my life being any way different um
to to be heterosexual my life would be conformity I think and
I don't I don't think I could do that okay that's it sure it's a good way to put it
so, you're happy with the way your life turned out yeah God um God um being gay makes me a little
different than most and I like that you're right definitely a unique character I was going to say fall
teasing I love you Baehr yeah um I’d be disappointed I think because I’m happy with the way my life is
I’m happy with the way my life's turned out you could have very easily gone that route
what been straight gotten married to a woman and had 2.3 kids and yeah well, it's like today when
we were at breakfast this morning and those kids were playing and you're like oh you want some I’m
like no not so much they're fun to look at and they're fun to play with when they're not yours
and then give them back and give them back but no I do not I’ve never really wanted kids and there
was all the such straight I can't I I’ve don't I don't know I just know that now I there's no way
yeah, I maybe in my 30s when I had more energy and stamina now
there's no there's no way I could raise kids yeah, it would kill me
you're cracking me up today
all right
what if the 9-11 terrorist attacks never happened
well I mean we would have a political system we'd be our politics would be completely we would have
a political system we'd be our politics we'd be our politics we'd be our politics we'd be our politics
especially Iraq because um what's his name junior the president Bush junior wanted so much
to um pick up daddy's pieces yeah, he wanted there was all this talk about Iraq had weapons of
mass destruction
um and it none of that came yeah, to pass none of it not one bit and yeah, that was I yeah, think all
stemming from those attacks he wanted to make an enemy he did I mean he did I mean and then
it spread over to Afghan and then we were there longer than we were in Iraq a lot longer
um and it none of that came Afghan to pass none of it not one bit and then we were there longer than we were in Iraq a lot longer
so yeah, I mean it's just think of the thousands of people that would have lived
like yeah so, all the warriors like you know
so yeah, I mean it's just think of the d thousands of people that would have lived
like yeah so, all the warriors like you know
like yeah so, all the warriors like you know I mean I’d say for a brief time it united us
I mean I’d say for a brief time it united us
I mean I’d say for a brief time it united us it didn't last
it didn't last, I mean I hate saying that medical tech
it didn't last
I mean I hate saying that medical tech technology would be less than it is now
I mean I hate saying that medical tech
technology would be less than it is now before it comes better medical technology
technology would be less than it is now
before it comes better medical technology yeah, I suppose so last,
before it comes better medical technology
yeah, I suppose so yeah, um it's really hard to say
yeah, I suppose so yeah,
um it's really hard to say it would be different if there's so
um it's really hard to say
it would be different if there's so many thousands of lives would be
it would be different if there's so
many thousands of lives would be completely different oh thousands and
many thousands of lives would be
completely different oh thousands and thousands of lives you know because you
completely different oh thousands and
thousands of lives you know because you have six degrees of separation
thousands of lives you know because you
have six degrees of separation I mean all around the world
have six degrees of separation
I mean all around the world almost everybody in this country
I mean all around the world
almost everybody in this country um knew somebody yeah, or someone
almost everybody in this country
um knew somebody yeah, or someone something was impacted by him directly
um knew somebody yeah, or someone
something was impacted by him directly yeah
something was impacted by him directly
yeah so
yeah
so, it's kind of crazy to think about but
so
it's kind of crazy to think about but you got to think about the
it's kind of crazy to think about but
you got to think about the so, butterfly effect that it caused I
you got to think about the
the butterfly effect that it caused I mean look at the wars and then from the
the butterfly effect that it caused I
mean look at the wars and then from the countless so, casualties of the
mean look at the wars and then from the
countless so, casualties of the wars the whole domino effect of
countless so, casualties of the
wars the whole domino effect of just that act
wars the whole domino effect of
just that act and what it did
just that act
and what it did so just a few people can change the
and what it did
so just a few people can change the world
so just a few people can change the
world yeah for a long time
world
yeah, for a long time so
yeah, for a long time
so, what if you had the ability to ability
so
what if you had the ability to ability to
what if you had the ability to ability
to physically
to
physically you want me to just say it yes you
physically
you want me to just say it yes you just go ahead and do it what if you had
you want me to just say it yes you
just go ahead and do it what if you had the ability to psychically make people
just go ahead and do it what if you had
the ability to psychically make people do whatever they want or whatever you
the ability to psychically make people
do whatever they want or whatever you want
do whatever they want or whatever you
want like
want
like so I know you're talking about that'd
like
so, I know you're talking about that'd be kind of neat
so, I know you're talking about that'd
be kind of neat but I’m going to get you to do what I want
be kind of neat
but I’m going to get you to do what I want you to do you think it would be fun
but I’m going to get you to do what I want
you do you want to do it remember that
you to do you think it would be fun
you do you want to do it remember that episode of the twilight zone with uh
you do you want to do it remember that
episode of the twilight zone with uh Billy Mummy where he could do anything
episode of the twilight zone with uh
Billy mummy where he could do anything and everybody was always
Billy mummy where he could do anything
and everybody was always smiling and trying to please him and
and everybody was always
smiling and trying to please him and whatever so they wouldn't be put in the
smiling and trying to please him and
whatever so they wouldn't be put in the cornfield
whatever so they wouldn't be put in the
cornfield I never saw that but that's kind of
cornfield
I never saw that but that's kind of creepy um
I never saw that but that's kind of
creepy um yeah everybody was walking on eggshells
creepy um
yeah, everybody was walking on eggshells
yeah, everybody was walking on eggshells around him all the time because
around him all the time because
around him all the time because they didn't want to upset him or
they didn't want to upset him or
they didn't want to upset him or because they're afraid that he could do
because they're afraid that he could do
because they're afraid that he could do that yeah everyone was afraid of him
that yeah everyone was afraid of him
that yeah everyone was afraid of him okay and even if
okay and even if
okay and even if yeah, I had that ability and even if
if I had that ability and even if
if I had that ability and even if people didn't know
people didn't know
people didn't know um
um
um if I made somebody like me
if I made somebody like me
if I made somebody like me against their will
against their will
against their will how would I ever know
how would I ever know um
how would I ever know
um some of that real feeling towards you
um
some of that real feeling towards you yeah
some of that real feeling towards you
yeah, how would I ever know the truth well
yeah
how would I ever know the truth well because you're not telling them what to
how would I ever know the truth well
because you're not telling them what to do all the time I mean
because you're not telling them what to
do all the time I mean I mean I see what you mean but I mean
do all the time I mean
I mean I see what you mean but I mean you'd have to be so
I mean I see what you mean but I mean
you'd have to be so out of control telling people what you
you'd have to be so
out of control telling people what you need to do all the time
out of control telling people what you
need to do all the time so you think it would it would be
need to do all the time
so, you think it would it would be overwhelming holding those
so, you think it would it would be
overwhelming holding those all those things all the time yeah, I
overwhelming holding those
all those things all the time yeah, I suppose that's a good
all those things all the time yeah, I
suppose that's a good point yeah
suppose that's a good
point yeah, we wouldn't be able to do it I mean
point yeah
we wouldn't be able to do it I mean it's that's what I’m taking it is more of
we wouldn't be able to do it I mean
it's that's what I’m taking it is more of like
it's that's what I’m taking it is more of
like hey rex go pick that up for me and you
like
hey rex go pick that up for me and you go over and pick it up
hey rex go pick that up for me and you
go over and pick it up I would be more like hey Elon musk give
go over and pick it up
I would be more like hey Elon musk give me a million dollars yeah
I would be more like hey Elon musk give
me a million dollars yeah but you know I’m just making you know
me a million dollars yeah
but you know I’m just making you know that's what I’m saying hey rex feed the
but you know I’m just making you know
that's what I’m saying hey rex feed the cats for me
that's what I’m saying hey rex feed the
cats for me you know what I mean stuff like that so
cats for me
you know what I mean stuff like that so not controlling them all the time where
you know what I mean stuff like that so
not controlling them all the time where they get up and get up
not controlling them all the time where
they get up and get up I would think you would always be
they get up and get up
I would think you would always be wondering what those people were truly
I would think you would always be
wondering what those people were truly like because
wondering what those people were truly
like because without you controlling them well if
like because
without you controlling them well if they don't like it, you get more to
without you controlling them well if
they don't like it you get more to control
they don't like it you get more to
I’m telling diabolical that's so
I’m telling diabolical that's so terrible
I’m telling diabolical that's so
terrible um I guess you could do a lot of good
terrible
um I guess you could do a lot of good
um I guess you could do a lot of good you could make um
you could make um
you could make um everyone in the in the
everyone in the in the
everyone in the in the middle east like each other well it'd
middle east like each other well it'd
middle east like each other well it'd be like also like it, today you can do
be like also like it, today you can do
be like also like it, today you can do things like when we were walking up the
things like when we were walking up the
things like when we were walking up the guys
guys
guys sitting in handicap parking leaning
sitting in handicap parking leaning
sitting in handicap parking leaning against the front of his car was music
against the front of his car was music
against the front of his car was music blaring with a handicap thing
blaring with a handicap thing
Lean against the car.
Turn your music off.
Go park your car in a better spot.
That's what I would do.
I would do stuff like that.
And go sit in your car and think about what you just did.
And that's what I would do.
You know what I mean?
I don't think I'd go to, like, an extreme for most people.
So, but, yeah, you know what I mean?
That's what I imagine it would be like.
Imagine if you could say, Donald Trump, be a good person.
Watch his head explode.
Because I don't think it's possible to happen.
Or it's possible at all to happen, so, yeah.
All right, here we go.
What if your father had not died?
In my case, I don't know that it would be that different.
In your case, vastly different.
Yeah, because, I mean, I never came out to my dad.
So, yeah, things would be different, you know, no doubt about it.
But, you know, I don't know how different they would be or what would be different, per se.
I remember on our wedding day; I had a little bit of time alone with your mother.
And I asked her, how would your father have felt about this day?
And she took a long breath and said, I don't know.
I don't know how he would have felt about it.
I think it was her way of saying,
he wouldn't have been okay with this, but I don't want to say that.
Probably, yeah.
I don't, I'd like to say that I think he would be, but part of me says,
there's a part of me that says he wouldn't have.
He would have, I think he would have gotten over it in his day,
he would have gotten over it in his time, but I would have never heard about it.
Yeah.
My father didn't take it well when I came out to him.
He came around.
Yeah.
I think he thought of you as the son that he didn't have.
Yeah, we got along.
I mean, I didn't know him for a very long time.
In the short time that I did know him, we got along pretty well.
Guess we have that in common.
One of the only things we have in common.
Yeah.
What if everyone could read everyone else's minds?
I think that would drive you crazy.
I would want to know everybody.
It would drive me crazy.
You know what I mean?
You wouldn't want to know what everyone else was thinking?
It could settle some wars, but I think it could cause a lot more.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Because...
If you knew what that person sitting across from you was actually thinking...
Deep down?
Yeah.
But it would drive me nuts.
I think I would want to know.
Like everything, you know, other...
So, you're thinking...
I'm being more paranoid.
You don't have to read their minds, but if you had the ability, you couldn't stop yourself
from doing it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I'd want to know about everything.
Like, you know what I mean?
It would drive me nuts wanting to know.
Just...
It'd be like opening Pandora's box.
Mm-hmm.
Anything.
I remember...
God, it was a famous person.
I was asked, what if...
What if you could know...
Know what somebody truly thinks of you?
Mm-hmm.
And the other guy said, you'd be amazed at how little they think of you.
Mm, that's true.
That's going to be true, too.
I don't...
Everybody thinks the universe revolves around them, but...
Our neighbors.
We're just a tiny, tiny, tiny speck in a huge cosmos.
I'm not our neighbor.
Hmm.
Okie doke.
Last one.
What if your current boss was replaced by your previous boss?
Who?
Did you hear what he said?
I think my current boss is my karma payback for my previous boss.
I hear him.
Could he get along with it?
He was just a horrible, horrible person.
And everybody...
Knew it.
And put up with it.
Yeah.
I'm surprised he ever had the job.
Or he's still alive.
Because he was just...
He was a terrible human being.
Mm-hmm.
So, if you can call him that...
That was the only job where I regularly just wanted to quit.
Mm-hmm.
And you stuck it out for...
All the time.
And you stuck it out for over two years.
There were times I would call you on the phone and I'd say,
I want to quit.
But I didn't.
No.
You stuck it out for over what?
Two years?
Three years?
Yeah, until their biggest customer dropped.
Mm-hmm.
I wonder if they're even open still.
They were bought by another company.
Oh, were they?
Yeah.
Good.
And hopefully he got fired.
Oh, yeah.
His name is not in the company directory I looked.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It's gone?
He didn't come with that company.
Oh, good.
Good.
Or if he did, he didn't last very long.
Good.
Because karma's a bitch.
He deserves it.
So...
What if your current boss was replaced by your previous boss?
Oh.
I know there's not...
You can't say too much.
No.
I mean, it would suck.
I mean...
They're both pains in the asses.
But the current one's not as bad as the previous one.
It's not as crazy as the previous one.
So that's all I'm really able to say.
So, yeah.
So, it's not karma so much for you that it's just replaced one person with another?
Yeah.
One's super crazy.
One's not just as crazy.
So...
But, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
It wouldn't bother me that much.
It wouldn't change...
It really wouldn't affect my world.
At all.
Not like yours.
So...
Yeah.
Shuddered.
I think that happened.
All right.
What was your favorite joke this week?
What do you call a cow that's had an abortion?
I have no idea.
Decaffeinated.
Oh, my God.
That's horrible.
That is terrible.
God.
Damn.
You're going to hell for that one.
All right.
Oh, my gosh.
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